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Rick Raisley
PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2004 9:21 pm 
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Yeah, this is a silly one. But several people have wondered just how expensive a 'Mech can be, so I'm going to go with it. As some of the newer Level 3 stuff gets incredibly expensive, I'm going to have 3 contests, one for each rules Level. This one is for Level 1:

HIGHEST COST LEVEL 1 BATTLEMECH (Cost in C-Bills)

* Must be a BattleMech.

* Custom weapons and equipment are not allowed.

* Must be Inner Sphere technology base.

* Design must be made using HeavyMetal Pro.

* Must be a Level 1 design.

* As this is kind of a silly contest anyhow, I'm not going to limit the designs to something all that reasonable. The only thing I would say is that the design cannot have a bunch of the same, but relatively unusable, equipment. What's unusable? I'll decide. But in this case, at least, I'm not specifying a weapon or armor limit.

Have fun!

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AWPrime
 Post subject: 1# Smasher SMH-01
PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 9:09 am 
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Code:
              BattleMech Technical Readout

Type/Model:    Smasher 
Tech:          Inner Sphere / 3025
Config:        Biped BattleMech
Rules:         Level 1, Standard design

Mass:          100 tons
Chassis:       Standard
Power Plant:   400 LTV Fusion
Walking Speed: 43,2 km/h
Maximum Speed: 64,8 km/h
Jump Jets:     None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor Type:    Standard
Armament:      
  10 Medium Lasers
Manufacturer:  (Unknown)
  Location:    (Unknown)
Communications System:  (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System:  (Unknown)

--------------------------------------------------------
Type/Model:    Smasher 
Mass:          100 tons

Equipment:                                 Crits    Mass
Int. Struct.:  152 pts Standard              0     10,00
Engine:        400 Fusion                    6     52,50
   Walking MP:   4
   Running MP:   6
   Jumping MP:   0
Heat Sinks:     16 Single                    0      6,00
Gyro:                                        4      4,00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors:                5      3,00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA+H    R: Sh+UA+LA+H   16       ,00
Armor Factor:  232 pts Standard              0     14,50

                          Internal    Armor
                          Structure   Value
   Head:                      3          9      
   Center Torso:             31         32      
   Center Torso (Rear):                 11      
   L/R Side Torso:           21      24/24      
   L/R Side Torso (Rear):              8/8      
   L/R Arm:                  17      26/26      
   L/R Leg:                  21      32/32      

Weapons and Equipment    Loc  Heat  Ammo   Crits    Mass
--------------------------------------------------------
4 Medium Lasers          RT     12           4      4,00
4 Medium Lasers          LT     12           4      4,00
2 Medium Lasers          CT      6           2      2,00
--------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                         30          41    100,00
Crits & Tons Left:                          37       ,00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        10.459.334 C-Bills
Battle Value:      1.241
Cost per BV:       8.428,15
Weapon Value:      1.573 / 1.573 (Ratio = 1,27 / 1,27)
Damage Factors:    SRDmg = 22;  MRDmg = 3;  LRDmg = 0
BattleForce2:      MP: 4,  Armor/Structure: 6/8
                   Damage PB/M/L: 4/3/-,  Overheat: 3
                   Class: MA;  Point Value: 12
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Highball
 Post subject: #2 Highballs Regulator
PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 3:57 pm 
Code:
               BattleMech Technical Readout

Type/Model:    Regulator RG-1
Tech:          Inner Sphere / 3025
Config:        Biped BattleMech
Rules:         Level 1, Standard design

Mass:          100 tons
Chassis:       Standard
Power Plant:   400 LTV Fusion
Walking Speed: 43.2 km/h
Maximum Speed: 64.8 km/h
Jump Jets:     4 Standard Jump Jets
Jump Capacity: 120 meters
Armor Type:    Standard
Armament:      
  1 PPC
  4 Medium Lasers
Manufacturer:  (Unknown)
  Location:    (Unknown)
Communications System:  (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System:  (Unknown)

--------------------------------------------------------
Type/Model:    Regulator RG-1
Mass:          100 tons

Equipment:                                 Crits    Mass
Int. Struct.:  152 pts Standard              0     10.00
Engine:        400 Fusion                    6     52.50
   Walking MP:   4
   Running MP:   6
   Jumping MP:   4
Heat Sinks:     10 Single                    0       .00
Gyro:                                        4      4.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors:                5      3.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA+H    R: Sh+UA+LA+H   16       .00
Armor Factor:  184 pts Standard              0     11.50

                          Internal    Armor
                          Structure   Value
   Head:                      3          6      
   Center Torso:             31         28      
   Center Torso (Rear):                 10      
   L/R Side Torso:           21      22/22      
   L/R Side Torso (Rear):              7/7      
   L/R Arm:                  17      20/20      
   L/R Leg:                  21      21/21      

Weapons and Equipment    Loc  Heat  Ammo   Crits    Mass
--------------------------------------------------------
1 PPC                    RA     10           3      7.00
2 Medium Lasers          RT      6           2      2.00
2 Medium Lasers          LT      6           2      2.00
4 Standard Jump Jets:                        4      8.00
 (Jump Jet Loc: 2 LT, 2 RT)
--------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                         22          42    100.00
Crits & Tons Left:                          36       .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        10,935,334 C-Bills
Battle Value:      1,145
Cost per BV:       9,550.51
Weapon Value:      788 / 788 (Ratio = .69 / .69)
Damage Factors:    SRDmg = 13;  MRDmg = 6;  LRDmg = 2
BattleForce2:      MP: 4J,  Armor/Structure: 5/8
                   Damage PB/M/L: 2/1/-,  Overheat: 3
                   Class: MA;  Point Value: 11


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js
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 5:00 am 
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So, this is the most expensive so far. It also has the least armor. It is possible to further increase the cost simply by replacing a ton of armor with an additional medium laser, but I decided to call it quits with 9.5 t of armor left. It is already under heat sinked even for a 3025 design and less armor than a Cyclops is really saying something for an assault 'Mech.
BTW, exchanging all the armor for medium lasers and a small laser results in a cost of 11,767,834, just over half a million more.
Code:
               BattleMech Technical Readout
                      UNDISTRIBUTED

Type/Model:    The Incredible Bulk TIB-1
Tech:          Inner Sphere / 3025
Config:        Biped BattleMech
Rules:         Level 1, Standard design

Mass:          100 tons
Chassis:       Standard
Power Plant:   400 LTV Fusion
Walking Speed: 43,2 km/h
Maximum Speed: 64,8 km/h
Jump Jets:     4 Standard Jump Jets
Jump Capacity: 120 meters
Armor Type:    Standard
Armament:      
  13 Medium Lasers
Manufacturer:  (Unknown)
  Location:    (Unknown)
Communications System:  (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System:  (Unknown)

--------------------------------------------------------
Type/Model:    The Incredible Bulk TIB-1
Mass:          100 tons

Equipment:                                 Crits    Mass
Int. Struct.:  152 pts Standard              0     10,00
Engine:        400 Fusion                    6     52,50
   Walking MP:   4
   Running MP:   6
   Jumping MP:   4
Heat Sinks:     10 Single                    0       ,00
Gyro:                                        4      4,00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors:                5      3,00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA+H    R: Sh+UA+LA+H   16       ,00
Armor Factor:  152 pts Standard              0      9,50

                          Internal    Armor
                          Structure   Value
   Head:                      3          9      
   Center Torso:             31         23      
   Center Torso (Rear):                  8      
   L/R Side Torso:           21      15/15      
   L/R Side Torso (Rear):              5/5      
   L/R Arm:                  17      16/16      
   L/R Leg:                  21      20/20      

Weapons and Equipment    Loc  Heat  Ammo   Crits    Mass
--------------------------------------------------------
1 Medium Laser           RA      3           1      1,00
1 Medium Laser           LA      3           1      1,00
4 Medium Lasers          RT     12           4      4,00
4 Medium Lasers          LT     12           4      4,00
2 Medium Lasers          CT      6           2      2,00
1 Medium Laser           HD      3           1      1,00
4 Standard Jump Jets:                        4      8,00
 (Jump Jet Loc: 2 LL, 2 RL)
--------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                         39          48    100,00
Crits & Tons Left:                          30       ,00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        11.215.334 C-Bills
Battle Value:      1.161
Cost per BV:       9.660,06
Weapon Value:      771 / 771 (Ratio = ,66 / ,66)
Damage Factors:    SRDmg = 15;  MRDmg = 2;  LRDmg = 0
BattleForce2:      MP: 4J,  Armor/Structure: 4/8
                   Damage PB/M/L: 2/2/-,  Overheat: 4
                   Class: MA;  Point Value: 12


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DarkStar2011
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 8:08 pm 
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Joined: Fri Jan 11, 2002 8:00 pm
Posts: 94
Location: Magistracy of Canopus via Illinois
It's silly, but it's expensive
Code:
               BattleMech Technical Readout

Type/Model:    Da Dark Alley Thug 
Tech:          Inner Sphere / 3025
Config:        Biped BattleMech
Rules:         Level 1, Custom design

Mass:          100 tons
Chassis:       Star League XT Standard
Power Plant:   400 GM Fusion
Walking Speed: 43.2 km/h
Maximum Speed: 64.8 km/h
Jump Jets:     4 Standard Jump Jets
Jump Capacity: 120 meters
Armor Type:    Starshield Standard
Armament:      
  15 Medium Lasers
Manufacturer:  Star League Weapons Research
  Location:    (Unknown)
Communications System:  Dalban Commline
Targeting & Tracking System:  Dalban HiRez-B

--------------------------------------------------------
Type/Model:    Da Dark Alley Thug 
Mass:          100 tons

Equipment:                                 Crits    Mass
Int. Struct.:  152 pts Standard              0     10.00
Engine:        400 Fusion                    6     52.50
   Walking MP:   4
   Running MP:   6
   Jumping MP:   4
Heat Sinks:     10 Single                    0       .00
Gyro:                                        4      4.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors:                5      3.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA+H    R: Sh+UA+LA+H   16       .00
Armor Factor:  120 pts Standard              0      7.50

                          Internal    Armor
                          Structure   Value
   Head:                      3          9      
   Center Torso:             31         16      
   Center Torso (Rear):                  5      
   L/R Side Torso:           21      12/12      
   L/R Side Torso (Rear):              4/4      
   L/R Arm:                  17      13/13      
   L/R Leg:                  21      16/16      

Weapons and Equipment    Loc  Heat  Ammo   Crits    Mass
--------------------------------------------------------
7 Medium Lasers          RA     21           7      7.00
7 Medium Lasers          LA     21           7      7.00
1 Medium Laser           HD      3           1      1.00
4 Standard Jump Jets:                        4      8.00
 (Jump Jet Loc: 2 CT, 1 LL, 1 RL)
--------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                         45          50    100.00
Crits & Tons Left:                          28       .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        11,335,334 C-Bills
Battle Value:      1,125
Cost per BV:       10,075.85
Weapon Value:      671 / 671 (Ratio = .60 / .60)
Damage Factors:    SRDmg = 20;  MRDmg = 2;  LRDmg = 0
BattleForce2:      MP: 4J,  Armor/Structure: 3/8
                   Damage PB/M/L: 2/2/-,  Overheat: 4
                   Class: MA;  Point Value: 11


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Klingon8
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 3:29 am 
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Joined: Fri Sep 21, 2001 8:00 pm
Posts: 1543
Location: Austin, Texas, on assignment from the Skye Republic
Ok, here we go:
Code:
                 BattleMech Technical Readout

Type/Model:    Steroid Hunchback STH-3H
Tech:          Inner Sphere / 3025
Config:        Biped BattleMech
Rules:         Level 1, Custom design

Mass:          100 tons
Chassis:       Standard
Power Plant:   400 LTV Fusion
Walking Speed: 43.2 km/h
Maximum Speed: 64.8 km/h
Jump Jets:     4 Standard Jump Jets
Jump Capacity: 120 meters
Armor Type:    Standard
Armament:      
  22 Medium Lasers
  1 Small Laser
Manufacturer:  (Unknown)
  Location:    (Unknown)
Communications System:  (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System:  (Unknown)

--------------------------------------------------------
Type/Model:    Steroid Hunchback STH-3H
Mass:          100 tons

Equipment:                                 Crits    Mass
Int. Struct.:  152 pts Standard              0     10.00
Engine:        400 Fusion                    6     52.50
   Walking MP:   4
   Running MP:   6
   Jumping MP:   4
Heat Sinks:     10 Single                    0       .00
Gyro:                                        4      4.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors:                5      3.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA+H    R: Sh+UA+LA+H   16       .00
Armor Factor:    0 pts Standard              0       .00

                          Internal    Armor
                          Structure   Value
   Head:                      3          0      
   Center Torso:             31          0      
   Center Torso (Rear):                  0      
   L/R Side Torso:           21        0/0      
   L/R Side Torso (Rear):              0/0      
   L/R Arm:                  17        0/0      
   L/R Leg:                  21        0/0      

Weapons and Equipment    Loc  Heat  Ammo   Crits    Mass
--------------------------------------------------------
7 Medium Lasers          RA     21           7      7.00
7 Medium Lasers          LA     21           7      7.00
3 Medium Lasers          RT      9           3      3.00
3 Medium Lasers          LT      9           3      3.00
2 Medium Lasers          CT      6           2      2.00
1 Small Laser            HD      1           1       .50
4 Standard Jump Jets:                        4      8.00
 (Jump Jet Loc: 2 LL, 2 RL)
--------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                         67          58    100.00
Crits & Tons Left:                          20       .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        11,767,834 C-Bills
Battle Value:      977
Cost per BV:       12,044.87
Weapon Value:      265 / 265 (Ratio = .27 / .27)
Damage Factors:    SRDmg = 16;  MRDmg = 2;  LRDmg = 0
BattleForce2:      MP: 4J,  Armor/Structure: 0/8
                   Damage PB/M/L: 2/2/-,  Overheat: 4
                   Class: MA;  Point Value: 10
He didn't say it had to actually be useful...

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Major_Takahashi
PostPosted: Sat Jun 12, 2004 1:29 am 
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Joined: Sat Jan 05, 2002 8:00 pm
Posts: 84
Location: Circinus Federation
Ok, with 48 medium lasers and 10 heat sinks it really is a roman candle.
Code:
               BattleMech Technical Readout

Type/Model:    Roman Candle RMN-CND
Tech:          Inner Sphere / 3025
Config:        Biped BattleMech
Rules:         Level 1, Standard design

Mass:          100 tons
Chassis:       Standard
Power Plant:   300 Vlar Fusion
Walking Speed: 32.4 km/h
Maximum Speed: 54.0 km/h
Jump Jets:     3 Standard Jump Jets
Jump Capacity: 90 meters
Armor Type:    Standard
Armament:      
  48 Medium Lasers
Manufacturer:  (Unknown)
  Location:    (Unknown)
Communications System:  (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System:  (Unknown)

--------------------------------------------------------
Type/Model:    Roman Candle RMN-CND
Mass:          100 tons

Equipment:                                 Crits    Mass
Int. Struct.:  152 pts Standard              0     10.00
Engine:        300 Fusion                    6     19.00
   Walking MP:   3
   Running MP:   5
   Jumping MP:   3
Heat Sinks:     10 Single                    0       .00
Gyro:                                        4      3.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors:                5      3.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA    R: Sh+UA             12       .00
Armor Factor:  176 pts Standard              0     11.00

                          Internal    Armor
                          Structure   Value
   Head:                      3          9      
   Center Torso:             31         25      
   Center Torso (Rear):                  8      
   L/R Side Torso:           21      18/18      
   L/R Side Torso (Rear):              6/6      
   L/R Arm:                  17      19/19      
   L/R Leg:                  21      24/24      

Weapons and Equipment    Loc  Heat  Ammo   Crits    Mass
--------------------------------------------------------
10 Medium Lasers         RA     30          10     10.00
10 Medium Lasers         LA     30          10     10.00
11 Medium Lasers         RT     33          11     11.00
11 Medium Lasers         LT     33          11     11.00
1 Medium Laser           CT      3           1      1.00
1 Medium Laser           HD      3           1      1.00
2 Medium Lasers          LL      6           2      2.00
2 Medium Lasers          RL      6           2      2.00
3 Standard Jump Jets:                        3      6.00
 (Jump Jet Loc: 1 LT, 1 RT, 1 CT)
--------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                        144          78    100.00
Crits & Tons Left:                           0       .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        11,780,000 C-Bills
Battle Value:      1,617
Cost per BV:       7,285.1
Weapon Value:      749 / 749 (Ratio = .46 / .46)
Damage Factors:    SRDmg = 14;  MRDmg = 2;  LRDmg = 0
BattleForce2:      MP: 3J,  Armor/Structure: 4/8
                   Damage PB/M/L: 2/2/-,  Overheat: 4
                   Class: MA;  Point Value: 16


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Major_Takahashi
 Post subject: #6 - Roman Candle MK2
PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 4:51 pm 
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Joined: Sat Jan 05, 2002 8:00 pm
Posts: 84
Location: Circinus Federation
Still trying to break the 12 million mark.
Code:
               BattleMech Technical Readout

Type/Model:    Roman Candle MK2
Tech:          Inner Sphere / 3025
Config:        Biped BattleMech
Rules:         Level 1, Standard design

Mass:          100 tons
Chassis:       Standard
Power Plant:   300 Vlar Fusion
Walking Speed: 32.4 km/h
Maximum Speed: 54.0 km/h
Jump Jets:     None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor Type:    Standard
Armament:      
  3 PPCs
  42 Medium Lasers
Manufacturer:  (Unknown)
  Location:    (Unknown)
Communications System:  (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System:  (Unknown)

--------------------------------------------------------
Type/Model:    Roman Candle MK2
Mass:          100 tons

Equipment:                                 Crits    Mass
Int. Struct.:  152 pts Standard              0     10.00
Engine:        300 Fusion                    6     19.00
   Walking MP:   3
   Running MP:   5
   Jumping MP:   0
Heat Sinks:     10 Single                    0       .00
Gyro:                                        4      3.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors:                5      3.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA    R: Sh+UA             12       .00
Armor Factor:   32 pts Standard              0      2.00

                          Internal    Armor
                          Structure   Value
   Head:                      3          8      
   Center Torso:             31          2      
   Center Torso (Rear):                  0      
   L/R Side Torso:           21        3/3      
   L/R Side Torso (Rear):              1/1      
   L/R Arm:                  17        3/3      
   L/R Leg:                  21        4/4      

Weapons and Equipment    Loc  Heat  Ammo   Crits    Mass
--------------------------------------------------------
1 PPC                    RA     10           3      7.00
7 Medium Lasers          RA     21           7      7.00
1 PPC                    LA     10           3      7.00
7 Medium Lasers          LA     21           7      7.00
12 Medium Lasers         RT     36          12     12.00
1 PPC                    LT     10           3      7.00
9 Medium Lasers          LT     27           9      9.00
2 Medium Lasers          CT      6           2      2.00
1 Medium Laser           HD      3           1      1.00
2 Medium Lasers          LL      6           2      2.00
2 Medium Lasers          RL      6           2      2.00
--------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                        156          78    100.00
Crits & Tons Left:                           0       .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        11,960,000 C-Bills
Battle Value:      1,309
Cost per BV:       9,136.75
Weapon Value:      318 / 318 (Ratio = .24 / .24)
Damage Factors:    SRDmg = 13;  MRDmg = 6;  LRDmg = 2
BattleForce2:      MP: 3,  Armor/Structure: 1/8
                   Damage PB/M/L: 2/2/-,  Overheat: 4
                   Class: MA;  Point Value: 13
http://www.heavymetalpro.com/designs/Ro ... le_MK2.hmp
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Rick Raisley
PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 9:25 pm 
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Location: RCW Enterprises, SC, USA
Quote:
Roman Candle MK2
Total Cost: 11,960,000 C-Bills
Looks like the 12 million mark won't be broken, so I'll go with the Major's aptly-named Roman Candle MK2. If you will please email me a final data file, with any fluff you'd like to add, and giving yourself credit in the Notes fluff section, I'll get it posted on my site.

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