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Overlord mapscale model breakdown


Tossing around ideas for the next mapscale dropship. Specifically the Overlord. Was thinking that if the model was done in slices that it would really easy to take the 3025 version and create the other versions from that. So then it would be a matter of mix and match parts to get the 3025 / 3057 / A3 or Clan variant.

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Kirk

Yeah: That's the right track; But you're trying too hard, IIAO. All you need is a '57 and a C nose cone, and all the rest could be the '25 body, or else the A3 body.

How much of that art is artistic license, and how much of it is "yes: it really did change"?

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I know...KISS...Keep It Simple Stupid...but a very good idea and makes it alot easier on me

caught this boober after I post
The top graphic in the breakdown pic should noted as 4- Unique nose cones


and lots of artistic license involved

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You could probably leave the A3 off the list, since it's primarily a space combatant with very few reasons to be caught on the ground in the middle of a Mech-scale battlefield. But for the sake of completeness, and for people who like building models for their own sake, I guess it should be included.

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Ditto

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I'll disagree with Goose for the Block! I'd go with the 3025 nose and the A3 or Clan nose as the 57, A3 and Clan are all very similar in the proboscus!

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How's about an optional nose plug to make the '25? Not that anybody knows how a DS will dock with a JS . . .

And forget about them antenna/gun/thingies on the '25: They's nothing but trouble!

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Make the Gun and antenea Puter as the Guns and Landing gear!

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Star League version


'Clan' style version

Looks good to me.

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Thanks...FYI, from talking with Mike, the Overlord RP is being done this week. Makes me all giddy
And the HPG tower is off to the casters, which I have been waiting over two years for that one to be done.

Oooooh! Shiney!

VERY nice.

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Hi all,
Just as an update, we received pics of the prototypes for the upcoming mapscale Overlords. As of right now,
I do not know how this will be manufactured. The Union wasa hollow 2 piece hull but the Overlord might be a
single piece design. As you can see, we have created a Clan style nose-cone for those who would want a Clan style
'O' or to even use it as a newer Overlord A. Will keep everyone appraised of updates as I hear them. As always,
enjoy...

Mmmmm....nice....

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Production pieces available now from IWM

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Very nice. $40 seems reasonable, considering the size and all. Are landing gear components included or available?

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very nice... Now if we just had map scale 'mech mini's to go with it... (but I seem to be the only one that want's 'mech and 'vee mini's to map scale - YES, I realize how tiny they would be)

Wonder how much one set to BT mini scale would cost per unit since it would be six to seven times taller.

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Yes landing gear, doors for the "in-flight" look and the antenna are included on the Inner Sphere vaersion. The Clan one has the gear and doors.
Nope, your not the only one. Have been pushing for mapscale Mechs for as long as I have worked on the dropships. The official word was licensing and the fear of micro-Mechs taking away from their bigger brethern.
Once the license issues are taken care of, myself and Damien are going to try again. If for anything, Battleforce minis which happen to be mapscale
The mapscale prototype cost $600, so I would hate to see what the mini-scale version would be. But I have worked on a mini-scale Union...big paperweight

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Coooool

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hmmm hooom

No, he's not the only one, because /I/ suggested them many moons ago. I'd like to see basically a standard size hex with 4-5 small holes in it, into which 4-5 of the map scale minis would be inserted, and moved as a group, for BF2. I think it would be incredibly popular. And just one in a hex would still work for standard CBT.

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wouldn't BattleForce maps be at a smaller scale than BattleTech Maps?

Maybe, maybe not. BattleTech minis are 1/285 scale. BattleTech maps are roughly 1/910 scale, or about 1/3 the size they should be. Now, this doesn't matter much for a game. But if you really would like to see things to scale, you'd make the minis 1/3 the size they are now and use published maps, or you'd use the existing minis, and make your own maps 3 times the current size, or about 4" hexes.

Now, with BattleForce2, 4-6 'Mechs move as a group, and, for simplicity, are played on standard CBT maps. Of course, we can't fit 4-6 minis in a hex, so either a) The cardboard counters supplied with the BF2 game, which represent a group of 4-6 'Mechs, are moved, or b) the player can use a single BattleMech to represent what the group actually is.

So, my suggestion of many years ago is to make a new line of minis about 1/3 their current size, with pins sticking out the bottom. Then you'd take standard CBT size hexes, with 1-6 holes in them, and place the mini, uh, minis into the holes. Those who want more "scale" CBT games (and maybe cheaper minis) would place a single mini on each hex. And those playing BF2 could place 4-6 mini 'Mechs on each hex base, which IMHO would look REALLY cool, be fun to play with, and as units are destroyed, they could simply be removed from the hex base.

To me, a no-brainer! But - it will be expensive, obviously, to make a new line of minis, it might take away some from standard size mini sales (personally I think it wouldn't, but would just add mini, mini sales).

There's one more downside of mini minis: people like me would be even more ashamed of our paint jobs, when compared to the ones JE and others would do!

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correct, but BattleForce 2 has various scales, including the same as 1 Hex = 30 m BattleTech Maps.
ISTR there is also 1 Hex = 90 M or 1/2700th Scale and others...

Minis made for BattleTech Scale would still be out of scale for most scales of BattleForce

But then again, BattleForce really hasnt had the WYSIWYG push that BattleTech has had

Call me stupid(kidding) but I dont think BF has ever had the same scale as standard CBT until the new Quick Strike rules came out.
BF hex scale was 1hex=90 meters instead of 30.
But for BF and/or mapscale play I still believe that a series of mechs should be made and marketed. One way to do this so it wouldnt compete with the standard sized mechs would be to limit their use to BattleForce tournament play, not allow mixing of scales for tournament play and to have the minis created either be generic or only certain ones (ie example, 3 Mechs/Vees from the usage charts for each House/Clan for each weight class.) That is still several different sculpts but not too many different sculpts. Artillery can be a 3 generic pieces(light, medium and heavy), markers can be used for infantry/Battlearmor.
Aerospace is already covered by the microfighters.
A good idea whose time I think has come.

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BattleForce 1 MapSheet Scale is 1 Hex = 180 Meters wide
BattleForce 2 MapSheet Scale is 2 Hex = 90 meters
Then there is the larger maps for both versions...

then BF2 gives the ability to run with BF2 stats at BT scale