Welcome to the HeavyMetalPro Forums

Okay lets see what you guys can come up with for improving the 3050 base line Javelin JVN-10P mech. You can revamp it as much as you feel needed or less, but the cost can not go over 4 million Cbills. All Inner Sphere tech of the 3050 era is allowed.

_________________
Karagin-

Darkness is a friend of mine. Sometimes I have to beat it back, or it would overwhelm me. Shirley Meier

[url]http://karagin12.livejournal.com/[/url]

The Wookiee, he's not wearing any pants!

[img]http://www.heavymetalpro.com/countries/mil-army.gif[/img]

OK, Karagin, I'll bite.

First, while I like the -10P's conservation of missiles, when its runs out, it runs away. It needed a laser. A large laser was the best I could do with all the other improvements I was going to add (I was going to give it an ER large laser, but the cost limitation required the lesser laser; but I still increased the damage curve and sustainability).

Second was the armor. While speed is one way to avoid being hit, nothing beats more armor. I gave it an extra ton. This at least improved the armor in all locations.

Third was to improve the conservation principle. I stripped the SRM-6 and ammo and replaced it with two more Streaks (you limited me to 3050 or I would've replaced both launchers with Streak-4s). But 50 rounds for two launchers that would only fire when there is a lockon was inviting an ammo explosion. Increasing the launchers while leaving the ammo alone improves the possibility of lockon and ammo expenditure.

Now, all of this required the installation of an XL engine (I know you guys hate these things on lights, but I had to find the tonnage somewhere) and Endo Steel structure. To offset all that heat generated by the large laser and additional Streaks, I changed out the single heat sinks for double.

So how did I do?

John

               BattleMech Technical Readout

Type/Model:    Javelin JVN-11L
Tech:          Inner Sphere / 3050
Config:        Biped BattleMech
Rules:         Level 2, Standard design

Mass:          30 tons
Chassis:       Duralyte 246 Endo Steel
Power Plant:   180 GM XL Fusion
Walking Speed: 64.8 km/h
Maximum Speed: 97.2 km/h
Jump Jets:     6 Rawlings 95 Standard Jump Jets
Jump Capacity: 180 meters
Armor Type:    StarGuard I Standard
Armament:      
  1 Harmon Large Laser
  4 Hovertec Streak Streak SRM 2s
Manufacturer:  Stormvanger Assemblies, Light Division
  Location:    Caph
Communications System:  Garret T-10B
Targeting & Tracking System:  Dynatec 128C

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Type/Model:    Javelin JVN-11L
Mass:          30 tons

Equipment:                                 Crits    Mass
Int. Struct.:  51 pts Endo Steel            14      1.50
 (Endo Steel Loc: 2 LA, 6 LT, 6 RT)
Engine:        180 XL Fusion                12      3.50
   Walking MP:   6
   Running MP:   9
   Jumping MP:   6
Heat Sinks:     10 Double [20]               9       .00
 (Heat Sink Loc: 1 LA, 2 RA)
Gyro:                                        4      2.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors:                5      3.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA+H    R: Sh+UA+LA+H   16       .00
Armor Factor:   80 pts Standard              0      5.00

                          Internal    Armor
                          Structure   Value
   Head:                      3          8      
   Center Torso:             10         12      
   Center Torso (Rear):                  4      
   L/R Side Torso:            7        7/7      
   L/R Side Torso (Rear):              4/4      
   L/R Arm:                   5        7/7      
   L/R Leg:                   7      10/10      

Weapons and Equipment    Loc  Heat  Ammo   Crits    Mass
--------------------------------------------------------
1 Large Laser            RA      8           2      5.00
2 Streak SRM 2s          RT      4   50      3      4.00
  (Ammo Locations: 1 LT)
2 Streak SRM 2s          LT      4           2      3.00
6 Standard Jump Jets:                        6      3.00
 (Jump Jet Loc: 2 CT, 2 LL, 2 RL)
--------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                         16          73     30.00
Crits & Tons Left:                           5       .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        3,942,640 C-Bills
Battle Value 2:    833 (old BV = 839)
Cost per BV2:      4,733.06
Weapon Value:      473 / 405 (Ratio = .57 / .49)
Damage Factors:    SRDmg = 19;  MRDmg = 6;  LRDmg = 0
BattleForce2:      MP: 6J,  Armor/Structure: 2/1
                   Damage PB/M/L: 3/2/-,  Overheat: 0
                   Class: ML;  Point Value: 8

_________________
ViperXTC

The first law of battle planning: "No plan survives the first contact intact."

               BattleMech Technical Readout

Type/Model:    Javelin JVN-12X
Tech:          Inner Sphere / 3067
Config:        Biped BattleMech
Rules:         Level  4, Standard design

Mass:          30 tons
Chassis:       Standard
Power Plant:   180 GM Standard Fusion
Walking Speed: 64.8 km/h
Maximum Speed: 97.2 km/h
Jump Jets:     6 Standard Jump Jets
Jump Capacity: 180 meters
Armor Type:    Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:      
  2 Small Pulse Lasers
  2 SRM 4s
Manufacturer:  (Unknown)
  Location:    (Unknown)
Communications System:  (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System:  (Unknown)

--------------------------------------------------------
Type/Model:    Javelin JVN-12X
Mass:          30 tons
Construction Options:  Fractional Accounting

Equipment:                                 Crits    Mass
Int. Struct.:  51 pts Standard               0      3.00
Engine:        180 Standard Fusio            6      7.00
   Walking MP:   6
   Running MP:   9
   Jumping MP:   6
Heat Sinks:     10 Double Heat Sink          9       .00
 (Heat Sink Loc: 1 LT, 2 RT)
Gyro:                                        4      2.00
Standard Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors:       5      3.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA+H    R: Sh+UA+LA+H   16       .00
Armor Factor:   80 pts Ferro-Fibrous        14      4.47
 (Armor Crit Loc: 1 HD, 4 LA, 4 RA, 3 LT, 2 RT)

                          Internal    Armor
                          Structure   Value
   Head:                      3          8      
   Center Torso:             10          9      
   Center Torso (Rear):                  3      
   L/R Side Torso:            7        8/8      
   L/R Side Torso (Rear):              3/3      
   L/R Arm:                   5        8/8      
   L/R Leg:                   7      11/11      

Weapons and Equipment    Loc  Heat  Ammo   Crits    Mass
--------------------------------------------------------
1 Small Pulse Laser      RT      2           1      1.00
1 SRM 4                  RT      3   25      2      3.00
  (Ammo Locations: 1 RT)
1 Small Pulse Laser      LT      2           1      1.00
1 SRM 4                  LT      3           1      2.00
CASE Equipment:          RT                  1       .50
6 Standard Jump Jets:                        6      3.00
 (Jump Jet Loc: 2 CT, 2 LL, 2 RL)
--------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                         10          66     29.97
Crits & Tons Left:                          12       .03

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        2,562,430 C-Bills
Battle Value:      638
Cost per BV:       4,016.35
Weapon Value:      173 / 173 (Ratio = .27 / .27)
Damage Factors:    SRDmg = 11;  MRDmg = 1;  LRDmg = 0
BattleForce:       MP: 6J,  Armor/Structure: 2/3
                   Damage PB/M/L: 2/1/-,  Overheat: 0
                   Class: ML;  Point Value: 6

So: Yeah.

As a raider, a Javelin makes a pretty good ash tray: Running around in the enemy rear with only ammo weapons is a pretty bold challenge to doctrine.

With all the new shiny out, the classically bad survivability can be addressed: Find some room for a CASE, and trim the ammo endurance some.

Being in someone elses' Back 40 typically means shooting up convoys of supplies; Which, in turn, don't shoot back much. Given that, it's a shame to burn SRM ammo on such. Small Pules make fine work of Yokel MPs and the canvas armor typically seen over top of LRM creates. It seems funny, but it conserves the SRMs for bigger things.

SRM-4s don't strictly have the throw weight of a six, but the it's ammo bay seems deeper. Feeding two launchers with one ton of ammo isn't conductive with lugging Infernos around "just in case", but the addition of the two lasers, never-mind the CASE, were deemed priorities.

A proper raider has head and leg-mounted guns, but Javelins just don't have 'em, and this is just a field mod.

_________________
[url=http://www.hitbox.tv/hmpgoose]Goose - The Egyptian God of Frustration[/url]

"He closes his eyes and remembers the night splattered with brightness, the sudden flare of erupting fuel, the mad chase as, supersonic, he bobbed and weaved among the hills and valleys of the Ozarks, the laws on his tail, burning for home …"

Interesting designs. Both tackle the same concept but from different angles. I think we could or would see both making a showing as the fighting against the Clans moved forward, prior to the advancements in weapons tech happening.

Mixing the two together in a lance or company would cause a lot of interesting moments for the enemy and further cause him to have to put more effort in keeping his lines from breaking or have more troops detailed to rear security.

_________________
Karagin-

Darkness is a friend of mine. Sometimes I have to beat it back, or it would overwhelm me. Shirley Meier

[url]http://karagin12.livejournal.com/[/url]

The Wookiee, he's not wearing any pants!

[img]http://www.heavymetalpro.com/countries/mil-army.gif[/img]

In my 3035 games I usually run two Javelins usually two JVN-10F although sometimes one JVN-10N and one JVN-10F.
I never really liked the JVN-10P so here is my attempt at re-arming it.

               BattleMech Technical Readout

Type/Model:    Javelin JVN-10PPC
Tech:          Inner Sphere / 3050
Config:        Biped BattleMech
Rules:         Level 2, Standard design

Mass:          30 tons
Chassis:       Duralyte 246 Standard
Power Plant:   180 GM Fusion
Walking Speed: 64.8 km/h
Maximum Speed: 97.2 km/h
Jump Jets:     6 Rawlings 95 Standard Jump Jets
Jump Capacity: 180 meters
Armor Type:    StarGuard I Standard
Armament:      
  1 ER PPC
  1 ER Medium Laser
Manufacturer:  Stormvanger Assemblies, Light Division
  Location:    Caph
Communications System:  Garret T-10B
Targeting & Tracking System:  Dynatec 128C

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
==Overview:==
Disliking the JVN-10P refit Sergeant Sid(Fixer)Jenkins has done his own
modification by stripping out the SRMs and replacing them with doubl heatsinks
while adding a new ERPPC to the right arm and a ERMedium Laser to the head. 
Although  his C.O. is mystified how he got the new tech when the Quartermaster
is still restricted to the old standard weapon he turns a blind eye to it and
hope that no higher authority will notice.

--------------------------------------------------------
Type/Model:    Javelin JVN-10PPC
Mass:          30 tons

Equipment:                                 Crits    Mass
Int. Struct.:  51 pts Standard               0      3.00
Engine:        180 Fusion                    6      7.00
   Walking MP:   6
   Running MP:   9
   Jumping MP:   6
Heat Sinks:     10 Double [20]               9       .00
 (Heat Sink Loc: 1 LT, 2 RT)
Gyro:                                        4      2.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors:                5      3.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA+H    R: Sh+UA+LA     15       .00
Armor Factor:   64 pts Standard              0      4.00

                          Internal    Armor
                          Structure   Value
   Head:                      3          6      
   Center Torso:             10          8      
   Center Torso (Rear):                  2      
   L/R Side Torso:            7        8/8      
   L/R Side Torso (Rear):              2/2      
   L/R Arm:                   5        6/6      
   L/R Leg:                   7        8/8      

Weapons and Equipment    Loc  Heat  Ammo   Crits    Mass
--------------------------------------------------------
1 ER PPC                 RA     15           3      7.00
1 ER Medium Laser        HD      5           1      1.00
6 Standard Jump Jets:                        6      3.00
 (Jump Jet Loc: 2 CT, 2 LL, 2 RL)
--------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                         20          49     30.00
Crits & Tons Left:                          29       .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        2,691,520 C-Bills
Battle Value:      858
Cost per BV:       3,136.97
Weapon Value:      363 / 363 (Ratio = .42 / .42)
Damage Factors:    SRDmg = 14;  MRDmg = 9;  LRDmg = 4
BattleForce2:      MP: 6J,  Armor/Structure: 2/3
                   Damage PB/M/L: 2/1/1,  Overheat: 0
                   Class: ML;  Point Value: 9

Ouch...now that one would cause me to want to go kill it. Not what I was expecting to see happen.

_________________
Karagin-

Darkness is a friend of mine. Sometimes I have to beat it back, or it would overwhelm me. Shirley Meier

[url]http://karagin12.livejournal.com/[/url]

The Wookiee, he's not wearing any pants!

[img]http://www.heavymetalpro.com/countries/mil-army.gif[/img]

My go OK it seems to be a Fire-Javelin but it started out as a JVN-10P, it spent so much time in the workshop it was called -PX after the base exchange,

Dave.

               BattleMech Technical Readout

Type/Model:    Javelin JVN-10PX
Tech:          Inner Sphere / 3050
Config:        Biped BattleMech
Rules:         Level 2, Custom design

Mass:          30 tons
Chassis:       Duralyte 246 Standard
Power Plant:   180 GM Fusion
Walking Speed: 64.8 km/h
Maximum Speed: 97.2 [118.8] km/h
Jump Jets:     6 Rawlings 95 Standard Jump Jets
Jump Capacity: 180 meters
Armor Type:    StarGuard I Ferro-Fibrous 
Armament:      
  1 Small Laser
  4 Medium Lasers
  1 Beagle Active Probe
Manufacturer:  Stormvanger Assemblies, Light Division
  Location:    Caph
Communications System:  Garret T-10B
Targeting & Tracking System:  Dynatec 128C

--------------------------------------------------------
Type/Model:    Javelin JVN-10PX
Mass:          30 tons

Equipment:                                 Crits    Mass
Int. Struct.:  51 pts Standard               0      3.00
Engine:        180 Fusion                    6      7.00
   Walking MP:   6 [7]
   Running MP:   9 [11]
   Jumping MP:   6
Heat Sinks:     10 Single                    3       .00
 (Heat Sink Loc: 1 HD, 2 LT)
Gyro:                                        4      2.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors:                5      3.00
Triple Strength Myomer:                      6       .00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA+H    R: Sh+UA+LA+H   16       .00
Armor Factor:  105 pts Ferro-Fibrous        14      6.00
 (Armor Crit Loc: 4 LA, 4 RA, 3 LT, 3 RT)

                          Internal    Armor
                          Structure   Value
   Head:                      3          9      
   Center Torso:             10         15      
   Center Torso (Rear):                  5      
   L/R Side Torso:            7      10/10      
   L/R Side Torso (Rear):              4/4      
   L/R Arm:                   5      10/10      
   L/R Leg:                   7      14/14      

Weapons and Equipment    Loc  Heat  Ammo   Crits    Mass
--------------------------------------------------------
1 Small Laser            LA      1           1       .50
2 Medium Lasers          RT      6           2      2.00
1 Beagle Active Probe    RT      0           2      1.50
2 Medium Lasers          LT      6           2      2.00
6 Standard Jump Jets:                        6      3.00
 (Jump Jet Loc: 2 CT, 2 LL, 2 RL)
--------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                         13          67     30.00
Crits & Tons Left:                          11       .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        3,255,265 C-Bills
Battle Value:      758
Cost per BV:       4,294.54
Weapon Value:      416 / 416 (Ratio = .55 / .55)
Damage Factors:    SRDmg = 14;  MRDmg = 2;  LRDmg = 0
BattleForce2:      MP: 6J,  Armor/Structure: 3/3
                   Damage PB/M/L: 2/1/-,  Overheat: 1
                   Class: ML;  Point Value: 8
                   Specials: prb

_________________
Battle Corps : FED-03C3

[img]http://www.heavymetalpro.com/countries/flag-uk.gif[/img]

Ahahahahaha! Ahahahaha! Aahahaha!

BEWARE!!!!!

Yrs sincerely
The Opera Ghost
— (Terry Pratchett, Maskerade)

I like the addition of the BAP. Does indeed give it that recon mech feel.

_________________
Karagin-

Darkness is a friend of mine. Sometimes I have to beat it back, or it would overwhelm me. Shirley Meier

[url]http://karagin12.livejournal.com/[/url]

The Wookiee, he's not wearing any pants!

[img]http://www.heavymetalpro.com/countries/mil-army.gif[/img]

I'm surprised nobody has gone with 4 MLs, 2 Streak 2 Packs, Endo, 10 DHS, 5.5 tons of standard armor and the traditional 6/9/6 movement profile. Sure it is nothing exciting, but it is a cheap workhorse that is deadly at short range.

that is feasible, when u replace the fusion engine with a light fusion one u can have 7 tons of armor.

BattleMech Technical Readout

Type/Model:    Javelin JVN-coba
Tech:          Inner Sphere / 3050
Config:        Biped BattleMech
Rules:         Level 2, Standard design

Mass:          30 tons
Chassis:       Duralyte 246 Endo Steel
Power Plant:   180 GM Light Fusion
Walking Speed: 64,8 km/h
Maximum Speed: 97,2 km/h
Jump Jets:     6 Rawlings 95 Standard Jump Jets
Jump Capacity: 180 meters
Armor Type:    StarGuard I Standard
Armament:      
  4 Medium Lasers
  2 Streak SRM 2s
Manufacturer:  Stormvanger Assemblies, Light Division
  Location:    Caph
Communications System:  Garret T-10B
Targeting & Tracking System:  Dynatec 128C

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
==Overview:==
     Though Davion units employ the Javelin, this 'Mech has been rare in other
armies since Stefan Amaris' Rim Worlds troops destroyed the Stormvanger
Assemblies factory on Caph in 2774. Davion commanders have always held the
Javelin in high regard, deploying it in much greater numbers than the other
states and preserving them through the centuries of Succession Wars.
     With many Javelins in service, Davion officers are expected to make field
modifications to keep the 'Mechs abreast of recovered technology. Though no
confirmation has been possible, one variation has been reported. The Federated
Commonwealth's secretiveness about modifications to the Javelin are consistent
with the Mech's reputation for being sneaky.
      The unconfirmed reports indicate that commanders are replacing the left
torso SRM-6 rack with two SRM-2 launchers, presumably the Hovertec Streak. For
a small sacrifice in firepower, this change would make the Javelin appreciably
more efficient in using ammunition, enhancing its ability to stay on the
battlefield. By keeping one of the SRM-6 racks, the sneaky Javelin could
confuse an enemy about whether he was facing an original or a modified version
of the 'Mech.

--------------------------------------------------------
Type/Model:    Javelin JVN-coba
Mass:          30 tons

Equipment:                                 Crits    Mass
Int. Struct.:  51 pts Endo Steel            14      1,50
 (Endo Steel Loc: 1 HD, 3 LA, 3 RA, 3 LT, 2 RT, 1 LL, 1 RL)
Engine:        180 Light Fusion             10      5,50
   Walking MP:   6
   Running MP:   9
   Jumping MP:   6
Heat Sinks:     10 Double [20]               9       ,00
 (Heat Sink Loc: 1 LA, 1 RA, 1 RT)
Gyro:                                        4      2,00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors:                5      3,00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA+H    R: Sh+UA+LA+H   16       ,00
Armor Factor:  105 pts Standard              0      7,00

                          Internal    Armor
                          Structure   Value
   Head:                      3          9      
   Center Torso:             10         15      
   Center Torso (Rear):                  5      
   L/R Side Torso:            7      10/10      
   L/R Side Torso (Rear):              4/4      
   L/R Arm:                   5      10/10      
   L/R Leg:                   7      14/14      

Weapons and Equipment    Loc  Heat  Ammo   Crits    Mass
--------------------------------------------------------
2 Medium Lasers          RA      6           2      2,00
2 Medium Lasers          LA      6           2      2,00
2 Streak SRM 2s          CT      4   50      3      4,00
  (Ammo Locations: 1 RT)
6 Standard Jump Jets:                        6      3,00
 (Jump Jet Loc: 2 LT, 2 RT, 1 LL, 1 RL)
--------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                         16          71     30,00
Crits & Tons Left:                           7       ,00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        3.539.640 C-Bills
Battle Value:      931
Cost per BV:       3.801,98
Weapon Value:      668 / 626 (Ratio = ,72 / ,67)
Damage Factors:    SRDmg = 21;  MRDmg = 3;  LRDmg = 0
BattleForce2:      MP: 6J,  Armor/Structure: 3/2
                   Damage PB/M/L: 3/3/-,  Overheat: 0
                   Class: ML;  Point Value: 9

but ur version is much cheaper:

BattleMech Technical Readout

Type/Model:    Javelin JVN-rock
Tech:          Inner Sphere / 3050
Config:        Biped BattleMech
Rules:         Level 2, Standard design

Mass:          30 tons
Chassis:       Duralyte 246 Endo Steel
Power Plant:   180 GM Fusion
Walking Speed: 64,8 km/h
Maximum Speed: 97,2 km/h
Jump Jets:     6 Rawlings 95 Standard Jump Jets
Jump Capacity: 180 meters
Armor Type:    StarGuard I Standard
Armament:      
  4 Medium Lasers
  2 Streak SRM 2s
Manufacturer:  Stormvanger Assemblies, Light Division
  Location:    Caph
Communications System:  Garret T-10B
Targeting & Tracking System:  Dynatec 128C

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
==Overview:==
     Though Davion units employ the Javelin, this 'Mech has been rare in other
armies since Stefan Amaris' Rim Worlds troops destroyed the Stormvanger
Assemblies factory on Caph in 2774. Davion commanders have always held the
Javelin in high regard, deploying it in much greater numbers than the other
states and preserving them through the centuries of Succession Wars.
     With many Javelins in service, Davion officers are expected to make field
modifications to keep the 'Mechs abreast of recovered technology. Though no
confirmation has been possible, one variation has been reported. The Federated
Commonwealth's secretiveness about modifications to the Javelin are consistent
with the Mech's reputation for being sneaky.
      The unconfirmed reports indicate that commanders are replacing the left
torso SRM-6 rack with two SRM-2 launchers, presumably the Hovertec Streak. For
a small sacrifice in firepower, this change would make the Javelin appreciably
more efficient in using ammunition, enhancing its ability to stay on the
battlefield. By keeping one of the SRM-6 racks, the sneaky Javelin could
confuse an enemy about whether he was facing an original or a modified version
of the 'Mech.

--------------------------------------------------------
Type/Model:    Javelin JVN-rock
Mass:          30 tons

Equipment:                                 Crits    Mass
Int. Struct.:  51 pts Endo Steel            14      1,50
 (Endo Steel Loc: 1 HD, 3 LA, 3 RA, 3 LT, 2 RT, 1 LL, 1 RL)
Engine:        180 Fusion                    6      7,00
   Walking MP:   6
   Running MP:   9
   Jumping MP:   6
Heat Sinks:     10 Double [20]               9       ,00
 (Heat Sink Loc: 1 LA, 1 RA, 1 RT)
Gyro:                                        4      2,00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors:                5      3,00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA+H    R: Sh+UA+LA+H   16       ,00
Armor Factor:   88 pts Standard              0      5,50

                          Internal    Armor
                          Structure   Value
   Head:                      3          9      
   Center Torso:             10         11      
   Center Torso (Rear):                  4      
   L/R Side Torso:            7        9/9      
   L/R Side Torso (Rear):              3/3      
   L/R Arm:                   5        8/8      
   L/R Leg:                   7      12/12      

Weapons and Equipment    Loc  Heat  Ammo   Crits    Mass
--------------------------------------------------------
2 Medium Lasers          RA      6           2      2,00
2 Medium Lasers          LA      6           2      2,00
2 Streak SRM 2s          CT      4   50      3      4,00
  (Ammo Locations: 1 RT)
6 Standard Jump Jets:                        6      3,00
 (Jump Jet Loc: 2 LT, 2 RT, 1 LL, 1 RL)
--------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                         16          67     30,00
Crits & Tons Left:                          11       ,00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        2.584.140 C-Bills
Battle Value:      912
Cost per BV:       2.833,49
Weapon Value:      581 / 545 (Ratio = ,64 / ,60)
Damage Factors:    SRDmg = 21;  MRDmg = 3;  LRDmg = 0
BattleForce2:      MP: 6J,  Armor/Structure: 2/3
                   Damage PB/M/L: 3/3/-,  Overheat: 0
                   Class: ML;  Point Value: 9

_________________
typos and spelling-mistakes are property of the finder. english is not my mother-tongue.

Very interesting takes many of you have had on this. All of the mechs are impressive and I feel would be seen at some point in the BT universe.

_________________
Karagin-

Darkness is a friend of mine. Sometimes I have to beat it back, or it would overwhelm me. Shirley Meier

[url]http://karagin12.livejournal.com/[/url]

The Wookiee, he's not wearing any pants!

[img]http://www.heavymetalpro.com/countries/mil-army.gif[/img]

               BattleMech Technical Readout

Type/Model:    Javelin JVN-10PR
Tech:          Inner Sphere / 3050
Config:        Biped BattleMech
Rules:         Level 2, Standard design

Mass:          30 tons
Chassis:       Duralyte 246 Standard
Power Plant:   180 GM Fusion
Walking Speed: 64.8 km/h
Maximum Speed: 97.2 km/h
Jump Jets:     6 Rawlings 95 Standard Jump Jets
Jump Capacity: 180 meters
Armor Type:    StarGuard I Standard
Armament:      
  1 Beagle Active Probe
  1 Guardian ECM
  1 ER Large Laser
Manufacturer:  Stormvanger Assemblies, Light Division
  Location:    Caph
Communications System:  Garret T-10B
Targeting & Tracking System:  Dynatec 128C

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
==Overview:==
Disliking the JVN-10P refit Sergeant Sid(Fixer)Jenkins has done his own
modification by stripping out the SRMs and replacing them with doubl heatsinks
while adding a new ERPPC to the right arm and a ERMedium Laser to the head. 
Although  his C.O. is mystified how he got the new tech when the Quartermaster
is still restricted to the old standard weapon he turns a blind eye to it and
hope that no higher authority will notice.

--------------------------------------------------------
Type/Model:    Javelin JVN-10PR
Mass:          30 tons

Equipment:                                 Crits    Mass
Int. Struct.:  51 pts Standard               0      3.00
Engine:        180 Fusion                    6      7.00
   Walking MP:   6
   Running MP:   9
   Jumping MP:   6
Heat Sinks:     10 Double [20]               9       .00
 (Heat Sink Loc: 1 LT, 2 RT)
Gyro:                                        4      2.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors:                5      3.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA+H    R: Sh+UA+LA+H   16       .00
Armor Factor:   64 pts Standard              0      4.00

                          Internal    Armor
                          Structure   Value
   Head:                      3          6      
   Center Torso:             10          8      
   Center Torso (Rear):                  2      
   L/R Side Torso:            7        8/8      
   L/R Side Torso (Rear):              2/2      
   L/R Arm:                   5        6/6      
   L/R Leg:                   7        8/8      

Weapons and Equipment    Loc  Heat  Ammo   Crits    Mass
--------------------------------------------------------
1 Beagle Active Probe    RT      0           2      1.50
1 Guardian ECM           LT      0           2      1.50
1 ER Large Laser         CT     12           2      5.00
6 Standard Jump Jets:                        6      3.00
 (Jump Jet Loc: 1 LT, 1 RT, 2 LL, 2 RL)
--------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                         12          52     30.00
Crits & Tons Left:                          26       .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        2,980,640 C-Bills
Battle Value:      782
Cost per BV:       3,811.56
Weapon Value:      243 / 243 (Ratio = .31 / .31)
Damage Factors:    SRDmg = 8;  MRDmg = 6;  LRDmg = 2
BattleForce2:      MP: 6J,  Armor/Structure: 2/3
                   Damage PB/M/L: 1/1/1,  Overheat: 0
                   Class: ML;  Point Value: 8
                   Specials: ecm, prb

And here is the other variant.

               BattleMech Technical Readout

Type/Model:    Javelin JVN-11PR
Tech:          Inner Sphere / 3050
Config:        Biped BattleMech
Rules:         Level 2, Standard design

Mass:          30 tons
Chassis:       Duralyte 246 Standard
Power Plant:   180 GM Fusion
Walking Speed: 64.8 km/h
Maximum Speed: 97.2 km/h
Jump Jets:     6 Rawlings 95 Standard Jump Jets
Jump Capacity: 180 meters
Armor Type:    StarGuard I Standard
Armament:      
  1 ER Small Laser
  1 Beagle Active Probe
  1 ER Large Laser
  1 ER Medium Laser
Manufacturer:  Stormvanger Assemblies, Light Division
  Location:    Caph
Communications System:  Garret T-10B
Targeting & Tracking System:  Dynatec 128C

--------------------------------------------------------
Type/Model:    Javelin JVN-11PR
Mass:          30 tons

Equipment:                                 Crits    Mass
Int. Struct.:  51 pts Standard               0      3.00
Engine:        180 Fusion                    6      7.00
   Walking MP:   6
   Running MP:   9
   Jumping MP:   6
Heat Sinks:     10 Double [20]               9       .00
 (Heat Sink Loc: 1 LT, 2 RT)
Gyro:                                        4      2.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors:                5      3.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA+H    R: Sh+UA+LA+H   16       .00
Armor Factor:   64 pts Standard              0      4.00

                          Internal    Armor
                          Structure   Value
   Head:                      3          6      
   Center Torso:             10          8      
   Center Torso (Rear):                  2      
   L/R Side Torso:            7        8/8      
   L/R Side Torso (Rear):              2/2      
   L/R Arm:                   5        6/6      
   L/R Leg:                   7        8/8      

Weapons and Equipment    Loc  Heat  Ammo   Crits    Mass
--------------------------------------------------------
1 ER Small Laser         RA      2           1       .50
1 Beagle Active Probe    LT      0           2      1.50
1 ER Large Laser         CT     12           2      5.00
1 ER Medium Laser        HD      5           1      1.00
6 Standard Jump Jets:                        6      3.00
 (Jump Jet Loc: 1 LT, 1 RT, 2 LL, 2 RL)
--------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                         19          52     30.00
Crits & Tons Left:                          26       .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        2,839,265 C-Bills
Battle Value:      794
Cost per BV:       3,575.9
Weapon Value:      357 / 357 (Ratio = .45 / .45)
Damage Factors:    SRDmg = 13;  MRDmg = 7;  LRDmg = 2
BattleForce2:      MP: 6J,  Armor/Structure: 2/3
                   Damage PB/M/L: 2/2/1,  Overheat: 0
                   Class: ML;  Point Value: 8
                   Specials: prb

ok heres mine, decided to swap some SRM's for Energy Weapons and an LRM for a little extra reach

               BattleMech Technical Readout

Type/Model:    Javelin JVN-10P
Tech:          Inner Sphere / 3050
Config:        Biped BattleMech
Rules:         Level  2, Standard design

Mass:          30 tons
Chassis:       Duralyte 246 Endo Steel
Power Plant:   180 GM Standard Fusion
Walking Speed: 64.8 km/h
Maximum Speed: 97.2 km/h
Jump Jets:     6 Rawlings 95 Standard Jump Jets
Jump Capacity: 180 meters
Armor Type:    StarGuard I Standard
Armament:      
  2 Medium Lasers
  1 Streak SRM 4
  1 LRM 5
Manufacturer:  Stormvanger Assemblies, Light Division
  Location:    Caph
Communications System:  Garret T-10B
Targeting & Tracking System:  Dynatec 128C

--------------------------------------------------------
Type/Model:    Javelin JVN-10P
Mass:          30 tons

Equipment:                                 Crits    Mass
Int. Struct.:  51 pts Endo Steel            14      1.50
 (Endo Steel Loc: 4 LA, 4 RA, 3 LT, 3 RT)
Engine:        180 Standard Fusio            6      7.00
   Walking MP:   6
   Running MP:   9
   Jumping MP:   6
Heat Sinks:     10 Double Heat Sink          9       .00
 (Heat Sink Loc: 2 LT, 1 RT)
Gyro:                                        4      2.00
Standard Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors:       5      3.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA+H    R: Sh+UA+LA+H   16       .00
Armor Factor:   64 pts Standard              0      4.00

                          Internal    Armor
                          Structure   Value
   Head:                      3          6      
   Center Torso:             10          8      
   Center Torso (Rear):                  2      
   L/R Side Torso:            7        8/8      
   L/R Side Torso (Rear):              2/2      
   L/R Arm:                   5        6/6      
   L/R Leg:                   7        8/8      

Weapons and Equipment    Loc  Heat  Ammo   Crits    Mass
--------------------------------------------------------
1 Medium Laser           RA      3           1      1.00
1 Medium Laser           LA      3           1      1.00
1 Streak SRM 4           CT      3   25      2      4.00
  (Ammo Locations: 1 RT)
1 LRM 5                  CT      2   24      2      3.00
  (Ammo Locations: 1 RT)
CASE Equipment:          RT                  1       .50
6 Standard Jump Jets:                        6      3.00
 (Jump Jet Loc: 1 LT, 1 RT, 2 LL, 2 RL)
--------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                         11          67     30.00
Crits & Tons Left:                          11       .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        2,681,640 C-Bills
Battle Value:      729
Cost per BV:       3,678.52
Weapon Value:      229 / 203 (Ratio = .31 / .28)
Damage Factors:    SRDmg = 15;  MRDmg = 4;  LRDmg = 1
BattleForce:       MP: 6J,  Armor/Structure: 2/3
                   Damage PB/M/L: 3/2/-,  Overheat: 0
                   Class: ML;  Point Value: 7

I have noticed, no one is going crazy with tossing everything on the mech, this approach makes sense at least to me. Liking all of them.

_________________
Karagin-

Darkness is a friend of mine. Sometimes I have to beat it back, or it would overwhelm me. Shirley Meier

[url]http://karagin12.livejournal.com/[/url]

The Wookiee, he's not wearing any pants!

[img]http://www.heavymetalpro.com/countries/mil-army.gif[/img]

cobayashimaru,

Thanks for throwing my version up on the board. I am on a Mac a good chunk of the time and have yet to figure out a good way to load HMP. Anyway, I can see a pack of Javelins having a mix of versions. The old sneaky as a Javelin has to come from somewhere.

I also see a Javelin as one of those old units that would soldier on for generations in the militia. It is fairly simple and can be easily modified to fill different roles based on need and available equipment. Need an anti-infantry or anti-vehicle unit and have an extra Javelin sitting there? Take the original stock version and a ton or two of infernos. Need a raider? How many MLs can you spare? This utility and availability would lend itself to a lot of minor upgrades and tweaks, even in the same unit.

Just my two cents.