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 Post subject: Two Atlases
PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 12:59 pm 
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Okay I was playing around with things and I took what I thought was a similar approach on these...but it turns out not to be the case, so I am going to go with the idea that the T2 version of the Atlas below was the rush to get the cool toys into it, send out to fight the Terran's enemies and then later once they figured out that they could build it for less and still get it similar firepower the standard 7T comes into play. Comments welcome:
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               BattleMech Technical Readout

Type/Model:    Atlas AS7-T2
Tech:          Inner Sphere / 3050
Config:        Biped BattleMech
Rules:         Level 2, Standard design

Mass:          100 tons
Chassis:       Foundation Type 10X Standard
Power Plant:   300 Vlar XL Fusion
Walking Speed: 32.4 km/h
Maximum Speed: 54.0 km/h
Jump Jets:     3 Standard Jump Jets
Jump Capacity: 90 meters
Armor Type:    Durallex Heavy Special Standard
Armament:      
  4 Medium Lasers
  3 Streak SRM 2s
  1 Gauss Rifle
  1 LRM 20 w/ Artemis IV
Manufacturer:  Yori 'Mech Works, Defiance Industries, Independence Weaponry
  Location:    Al'Nair, Hesperus II, Quentin
Communications System:  Army Comm. Class 5
Targeting & Tracking System:  Army Corporation Type 29K

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Type/Model:    Atlas AS7-T2
Mass:          100 tons

Equipment:                                 Crits    Mass
Int. Struct.:  152 pts Standard              0     10.00
Engine:        300 XL Fusion                12      9.50
   Walking MP:   3
   Running MP:   5
   Jumping MP:   3
Heat Sinks:     20 Single                    8     10.00
 (Heat Sink Loc: 3 LA, 3 RA, 1 LL, 1 RL)
Gyro:                                        4      3.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors:                5      3.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA+H    R: Sh+UA+LA+H   16       .00
Armor Factor:  304 pts Standard              0     19.00

                          Internal    Armor
                          Structure   Value
   Head:                      3          9      
   Center Torso:             31         47      
   Center Torso (Rear):                 14      
   L/R Side Torso:           21      32/32      
   L/R Side Torso (Rear):            10/10      
   L/R Arm:                  17      34/34      
   L/R Leg:                  21      41/41      

Weapons and Equipment    Loc  Heat  Ammo   Crits    Mass
--------------------------------------------------------
1 Medium Laser           RA      3           1      1.00
3 Streak SRM 2s          RA      6   50      4      5.50
  (Ammo Locations: 1 LT)
1 Medium Laser           LA      3           1      1.00
1 Gauss Rifle            RT      1   16      9     17.00
  (Ammo Locations: 2 RT)
1 LRM 20 w/ Artemis IV   LT      6   12      8     13.00
  (Ammo Locations: 2 LT)
1 Medium Laser           CT(R)   3           1      1.00
1 Medium Laser           HD(R)   3           1      1.00
3 Standard Jump Jets:                        3      6.00
 (Jump Jet Loc: 1 CT, 1 LL, 1 RL)
--------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                         25          73    100.00
Crits & Tons Left:                           5       .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        22,330,000 C-Bills
Battle Value 2:    2,280 (old BV = 2,117)
Cost per BV2:      9,793.86
Weapon Value:      2,747 / 2,516 (Ratio = 1.20 / 1.10)
Damage Factors:    SRDmg = 38;  MRDmg = 24;  LRDmg = 13
BattleForce2:      MP: 3J,  Armor/Structure: 8/4
                   Damage PB/M/L: 6/5/3,  Overheat: 0
                   Class: MA;  Point Value: 23
                   Specials: if
 
And the other one....
Code:
               BattleMech Technical Readout

Type/Model:    Atlas AS7-T
Tech:          Inner Sphere / 3055
Config:        Biped BattleMech
Rules:         Level 2, Standard design

Mass:          100 tons
Chassis:       Foundation Type 10X Endo Steel
Power Plant:   300 Vlar Fusion
Walking Speed: 32.4 km/h
Maximum Speed: 54.0 km/h
Jump Jets:     3 Standard Jump Jets
Jump Capacity: 90 meters
Armor Type:    Durallex Heavy Special Standard
Armament:      
  4 Medium Lasers
  2 Medium Pulse Lasers
  1 Gauss Rifle
  1 LRM 20 w/ Artemis IV
  1 SRM 6
Manufacturer:  Yori 'Mech Works, Defiance Industries, Independence Weaponry
  Location:    Al'Nair, Hesperus II, Quentin
Communications System:  Army Comm. Class 5
Targeting & Tracking System:  Army Corporation Type 29K

--------------------------------------------------------
Type/Model:    Atlas AS7-T
Mass:          100 tons

Equipment:                                 Crits    Mass
Int. Struct.:  152 pts Endo Steel           14      5.00
 (Endo Steel Loc: 1 HD, 4 LA, 4 RA, 1 RT, 2 LL, 2 RL)
Engine:        300 Fusion                    6     19.00
   Walking MP:   3
   Running MP:   5
   Jumping MP:   3
Heat Sinks:     12 Double [24]               0      2.00
Gyro:                                        4      3.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors:                5      3.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA+H    R: Sh+UA+LA+H   16       .00
Armor Factor:  304 pts Standard              0     19.00

                          Internal    Armor
                          Structure   Value
   Head:                      3          9      
   Center Torso:             31         47      
   Center Torso (Rear):                 14      
   L/R Side Torso:           21      32/32      
   L/R Side Torso (Rear):            10/10      
   L/R Arm:                  17      34/34      
   L/R Leg:                  21      41/41      

Weapons and Equipment    Loc  Heat  Ammo   Crits    Mass
--------------------------------------------------------
2 Medium Lasers          RA      6           2      2.00
1 Medium Pulse Laser     RA      4           1      2.00
2 Medium Lasers          LA      6           2      2.00
1 Medium Pulse Laser     LA      4           1      2.00
1 Gauss Rifle            RT      1   16      9     17.00
  (Ammo Locations: 2 RT)
1 LRM 20 w/ Artemis IV   LT      6   12      8     13.00
  (Ammo Locations: 2 LT)
1 SRM 6                  LT      4   15      3      4.00
  (Ammo Locations: 1 LT)
CASE Equipment:          CT     RT           2      1.00
3 Standard Jump Jets:                        3      6.00
 (Jump Jet Loc: 1 LT, 1 RT, 1 CT)
--------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                         31          76    100.00
Crits & Tons Left:                           2       .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        11,130,000 C-Bills
Battle Value 2:    2,538 (old BV = 2,170)
Cost per BV2:      4,385.34
Weapon Value:      3,036 / 2,921 (Ratio = 1.20 / 1.15)
Damage Factors:    SRDmg = 43;  MRDmg = 25;  LRDmg = 13
BattleForce2:      MP: 3J,  Armor/Structure: 8/8
                   Damage PB/M/L: 6/6/2,  Overheat: 2
                   Class: MA;  Point Value: 25
                   Specials: if
 

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 Post subject: Re: Two Atlases
PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 10:39 am 
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What is your timeline on this? You said "fight the Terran's enemies" or something like that, does that mean first SL?

Anyway, I like the first, flawed design as either "try to get the toys in" like you mentioned or that one of the later components, say the DHS were not available in quantity yet, thus the building of the less then optimized design based on what you had at hand. Basically the Snakes not using DHS in the 3050s because they didn't have enough.

Either way I much prefer the second version. Sure you don't have the electronics for the missiles, but that is at least partially offset by the variety of missiles available. Swarms are just as helpful in many battles as the bolt on FCS.


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 Post subject: Re: Two Atlases
PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:47 pm 
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For a time line, something like this could be Terran Hegemony or SL time frame if one wants it. I normally save the T designator for my New Terran Republic stuff, which over throws the yoke of the WoB and goes one the warpath against them so more an alternate Jihad Setting.

Thanks for the comments, as said I was revamping things and realized I tried to re-create the wheel with similar ideas but different outcomes.

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 Post subject: Re: Two Atlases
PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:39 am 
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More and more when I build my brain at least goes for the fluff perspective as opposed to the uber killing machine. Sort of the thought/reasoning in game for a build, and that's why I like your second Atlas. It does sacrifice a bit from the original, but the price savings lets you field 2 for 1 with each being say 85-90% as useful for half the cost.


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 Post subject: One of my versions :)
PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 3:45 am 
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Here is one of my versions of the Atlas :)
Code:
BattleMech Technical Readout

Type/Model:    Obliterator 
Tech:          Inner Sphere / 2750
Config:        Biped BattleMech
Rules:         Level 2, Custom design

Mass:          100 tons
Chassis:       Standard
Power Plant:   300 Vlar Fusion
Walking Speed: 32.4 km/h
Maximum Speed: 54.0 km/h
Jump Jets:     None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor Type:    Standard

Armament:      
  1 ER PPC
  1 ER Large Laser
  1 SRM 6 w/ Artemis IV
  1 Gauss Rifle
  1 Guardian ECM
  1 Flamer

Manufacturer:  (Unknown)
  Location:    (Unknown)
Communications System:  (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System:  (Unknown)

--------------------------------------------------------
Type/Model:    Obliterator 
Mass:          100 tons

Equipment:                                 Crits    Mass
Int. Struct.:  152 pts Standard              0     10.00
Engine:        300 Fusion                    6     19.00
   Walking MP:   3
   Running MP:   5
   Jumping MP:   0
Heat Sinks:     17 Double [34]              15      7.00
 (Heat Sink Loc: 2 LA, 1 RA, 2 RT)
Gyro:                                        4      3.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors:                5      3.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA+H    R: Sh+UA+LA+H   16       .00
Armor Factor:  307 pts Standard              0     19.50

                          Internal    Armor
                          Structure   Value
   Head:                      3          9      
   Center Torso:             31         47      
   Center Torso (Rear):                 15      
   L/R Side Torso:           21      32/32      
   L/R Side Torso (Rear):            10/10      
   L/R Arm:                  17      34/34      
   L/R Leg:                  21      42/42      

Weapons and Equipment    Loc  Heat  Ammo   Crits    Mass
--------------------------------------------------------
1 ER PPC                 RA     15           3      7.00
1 ER Large Laser         LA     12           2      5.00
1 SRM 6 w/ Artemis IV    RT      4   15      4      5.00
  (Ammo Locations: 1 RT)
1 Gauss Rifle            LT      1   24     10     18.00
  (Ammo Locations: 3 LT)
1 Guardian ECM           CT      0           2      1.50
1 Flamer                 HD      3           1      1.00
CASE Equipment:          LT     RT           2      1.00
--------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                         35          70    100.00
Crits & Tons Left:                           8       .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        10,809,000 C-Bills
Battle Value 2:    2,324 (old BV = 2,045)
Cost per BV2:      4,651.03
Weapon Value:      3,164 / 3,095 (Ratio = 1.36 / 1.33)
Damage Factors:    SRDmg = 37;  MRDmg = 25;  LRDmg = 13
BattleForce2:      MP: 3,  Armor/Structure: 8/8
                   Damage PB/M/L: 6/4/3,  Overheat: 0
                   Class: MA;  Point Value: 23
                   Specials: ecm


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 Post subject: Re: Two Atlases
PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 7:43 pm 
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here's a version of the Atlas I came up with some time ago
Quote:
BattleMech Technical Readout

Type/Model: Atlas III
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3025
Config: Biped BattleMech
Rules: Level 2, Standard design

Mass: 100 tons
Chassis: Endo Steel
Power Plant: 300 Light Fusion
Walking Speed: 32.4 km/h
Maximum Speed: 54.0 km/h
Jump Jets: None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor Type: Standard
Armament:
2 Snub-Nose PPCs
1 Heavy PPC
1 Rotary AC/5
1 Gauss Rifle
Manufacturer: (Unknown)
Location: (Unknown)
Communications System: (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System: (Unknown)

--------------------------------------------------------
Type/Model: Atlas III
Mass: 100 tons

Equipment: Crits Mass
Int. Struct.: 152 pts Endo Steel 14 5.00
(Endo Steel Loc: 1 HD, 6 LA, 6 RA, 1 CT)
Engine: 300 Light Fusion 10 14.50
Walking MP: 3
Running MP: 5
Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks: 13 Double Heat Sink 3 3.00
(Heat Sink Loc: 1 LT)
Gyro: 4 3.00
Standard Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors: 5 3.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA+H R: Sh+UA+LA+H 16 .00
Armor Factor: 307 pts Standard 0 19.50

Internal Armor
Structure Value
Head: 3 9
Center Torso: 31 46
Center Torso (Rear): 16
L/R Side Torso: 21 32/32
L/R Side Torso (Rear): 10/10
L/R Arm: 17 34/34
L/R Leg: 21 42/42

Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass
--------------------------------------------------------
1 Snub-Nose PPC RA 10 2 6.00
1 Snub-Nose PPC LA 10 2 6.00
1 Heavy PPC RT 15 4 10.00
1 Rotary AC/5 RT 1 60 9 13.00
(Ammo Locations: 1 CT, 2 RL)
1 Gauss Rifle LT 1 16 9 17.00
(Ammo Locations: 2 LL)
--------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS: 42 78 100.00
Crits & Tons Left: 0 .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 19,200,000 C-Bills
Battle Value: 2,528
Cost per BV: 7,594.94
Weapon Value: 3,752 / 3,752 (Ratio = 1.48 / 1.48)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 41; MRDmg = 28; LRDmg = 11
BattleForce: MP: 3, Armor/Structure: 8/6
Damage PB/M/L: 5/4/2, Overheat: 3
Class: MA; Point Value: 25


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 Post subject: Re: Two Atlases
PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 8:31 pm 
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It has the heavy hitters, and can take the return fire as well.

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