Good designs, lordwolf, they capture the feel of the Warhammer. I think the first one has almost as much armor, too.
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| Author: | lordwolf [ Wed Apr 26, 2017 11:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | half a 'Hammer |
well not quite with the first one as I wanted to avoid the XL engine Quote: BattleMech Technical Readout
but this one is Half and does have the XLType/Model: Warhammer .5 Tech: Inner Sphere / 3055 Config: Biped BattleMech Rules: Level 2, Standard design Mass: 40 tons Chassis: Endo Steel Power Plant: 200 Light Fusion Walking Speed: 54.0 km/h Maximum Speed: 86.4 km/h Jump Jets: None Jump Capacity: 0 meters Armor Type: Standard Armament: 2 Snub-Nose PPCs 2 Medium Lasers 1 SRM 2 Manufacturer: Mad Engineers Incorporated Location: (Unknown) Communications System: (Unknown) Targeting & Tracking System: (Unknown) -------------------------------------------------------- Type/Model: Warhammer .5 Mass: 40 tons Equipment: Crits Mass Int. Struct.: 67 pts Endo Steel 14 2.00 (Endo Steel Loc: ) Engine: 200 Light Fusion 10 6.50 Walking MP: 5 Running MP: 8 Jumping MP: 0 Heat Sinks: 14 Double Heat Sink 18 4.00 (Heat Sink Loc: 3 LT, 3 RT) Extra Light (XL) Gyro: 6 1.00 Small Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors: 4 2.00 Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA+H R: Sh+UA+LA+H 16 .00 Armor Factor: 136 pts Standard 0 8.50 Internal Armor Structure Value Head: 3 9 Center Torso: 12 17 Center Torso (Rear): 6 L/R Side Torso: 10 15/15 L/R Side Torso (Rear): 5/5 L/R Arm: 6 12/12 L/R Leg: 10 20/20 Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass -------------------------------------------------------- 1 Snub-Nose PPC RA 10 2 6.00 1 Snub-Nose PPC LA 10 2 6.00 1 Medium Laser RT 3 1 1.00 1 Medium Laser LT 3 1 1.00 1 SRM 2 HD 2 50 2 2.00 (Ammo Locations: 1 HD) -------------------------------------------------------- TOTALS: 28 76 40.00 Crits & Tons Left: 2 .00 Calculated Factors: Total Cost: 5,223,960 C-Bills Battle Value: 1,152 Cost per BV: 4,534.69 Weapon Value: 913 / 913 (Ratio = .79 / .79) Damage Factors: SRDmg = 28; MRDmg = 16; LRDmg = 1 BattleForce: MP: 5, Armor/Structure: 3/3 Damage PB/M/L: 4/3/-, Overheat: 0 Class: MM; Point Value: 12 Quote: BattleMech Technical Readout
Type/Model: Warhammer .5 A Tech: Inner Sphere / 3055 Config: Biped BattleMech Rules: Level 2, Standard design Mass: 35 tons Chassis: Endo Steel Power Plant: 175 Omni XL Fusion Walking Speed: 54.0 km/h Maximum Speed: 86.4 km/h Jump Jets: None Jump Capacity: 0 meters Armor Type: Standard Armament: 2 Snub-Nose PPCs 2 Medium Lasers 1 SRM 2 Manufacturer: Mad Engineers Incorporated Location: (Unknown) Communications System: (Unknown) Targeting & Tracking System: (Unknown) -------------------------------------------------------- Type/Model: Warhammer .5 A Mass: 35 tons Equipment: Crits Mass Int. Struct.: 58 pts Endo Steel 14 2.00 (Endo Steel Loc: 1 HD, 3 LA, 3 RA, 1 LT, 2 RT, 2 LL, 2 RL) Engine: 175 XL Fusion 12 3.50 Walking MP: 5 Running MP: 8 Jumping MP: 0 Heat Sinks: 13 Double Heat Sink 18 3.00 (Heat Sink Loc: 1 LA, 1 RA, 2 LT, 2 RT) Extra Light (XL) Gyro: 6 1.00 Small Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors: 4 2.00 Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA+H R: Sh+UA+LA+H 16 .00 Armor Factor: 119 pts Standard 0 7.50 Internal Armor Structure Value Head: 3 9 Center Torso: 11 16 Center Torso (Rear): 6 L/R Side Torso: 8 12/12 L/R Side Torso (Rear): 4/4 L/R Arm: 6 12/12 L/R Leg: 8 16/16 Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass -------------------------------------------------------- 1 Snub-Nose PPC RA 10 2 6.00 1 Snub-Nose PPC LA 10 2 6.00 1 Medium Laser RT 3 1 1.00 1 Medium Laser LT 3 1 1.00 1 SRM 2 HD 2 50 2 2.00 (Ammo Locations: 1 LT) -------------------------------------------------------- TOTALS: 28 78 35.00 Crits & Tons Left: 0 .00 Calculated Factors: Total Cost: 5,015,160 C-Bills Battle Value: 1,050 Cost per BV: 4,776.34 Weapon Value: 772 / 772 (Ratio = .74 / .74) Damage Factors: SRDmg = 26; MRDmg = 16; LRDmg = 1 BattleForce: MP: 5, Armor/Structure: 3/1 Damage PB/M/L: 4/3/-, Overheat: 0 Class: ML; Point Value: 11 |
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| Author: | Rockjock01 [ Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: half a 'Hammer |
So what is your thought process on these? Trying to build a smaller mech that looks like a Warhammer? For their size they are fragile, slow, and don't have great range while not being all that cheap based on their engine. I threw together a couple of medium weight hammer clones below. Similar price ranges, a bit more short range firepower, and a lot more durable. My versions are slower, but the TSM makes up for that. My Snubbie version is very, very similar to yours, but trades the SRMs for two MLs and various smalls for heat balance. The ERLL version is more different from the main weapon choice, but you get the idea. Code: BattleMech Technical Readout
Type/Model: Babyhammer ERLL
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3025
Config: Biped BattleMech
Rules: Level 3, Standard design
Mass: 50 tons
Chassis: StarCorp 100 Standard
Power Plant: 200 VOX Fusion
Walking Speed: 43.2 km/h
Maximum Speed: 64.8 [86.4] km/h
Jump Jets: None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor Type: Leviathon Plus Standard
Armament:
2 ER Large Lasers
4 Medium Lasers
1 Small Laser
1 ER Small Laser
Manufacturer: StarCorps Industries
Location: (Unknown)
Communications System: O/P 3000 COMSET
Targeting & Tracking System: O/P 1500 ARB
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Type/Model: Babyhammer TSM
Mass: 50 tons
Equipment: Crits Mass
Int. Struct.: 83 pts Standard 0 5.00
Engine: 200 Fusion 6 8.50
Walking MP: 4 [5]
Running MP: 6 [8]
Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks: 16 Double [32] 24 6.00
(Heat Sink Loc: 2 LA, 2 RA, 2 LT, 2 RT)
Gyro: 4 2.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors: 5 3.00
Triple Strength Myomer: 6 .00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA R: Sh+UA+LA 14 .00
Armor Factor: 168 pts Standard 0 10.50
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Head: 3 9
Center Torso: 16 23
Center Torso (Rear): 8
L/R Side Torso: 12 18/18
L/R Side Torso (Rear): 6/6
L/R Arm: 8 16/16
L/R Leg: 12 24/24
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass
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1 ER Large Laser RA 12 2 5.00
1 ER Large Laser LA 12 2 5.00
2 Medium Lasers RT 6 2 2.00
2 Medium Lasers LT 6 2 2.00
1 Small Laser CT 1 1 .50
1 ER Small Laser CT 2 1 .50
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TOTALS: 39 69 50.00
Crits & Tons Left: 9 .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 4,905,250 C-Bills
Battle Value 2: 1,560 (old BV = 1,197)
Cost per BV2: 3,144.39
Weapon Value: 1,949 / 1,949 (Ratio = 1.25 / 1.25)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 28; MRDmg = 13; LRDmg = 5
BattleForce2: MP: 4, Armor/Structure: 4/4
Damage PB/M/L: 4/3/1, Overheat: 1
Class: MM; Point Value: 16
Code: BattleMech Technical Readout
Custom* Weapons
Type/Model: Babyhammer Snubbie
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3025
Config: Biped BattleMech
Rules: Level 3, Standard design
Mass: 50 tons
Chassis: StarCorp 100 Standard
Power Plant: 200 VOX Fusion
Walking Speed: 43.2 km/h
Maximum Speed: 64.8 [86.4] km/h
Jump Jets: None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor Type: Leviathon Plus Standard
Armament:
2 Snub nose PPCs*
4 Medium Lasers
1 Small Laser
1 ER Small Laser
Manufacturer: StarCorps Industries
Location: (Unknown)
Communications System: O/P 3000 COMSET
Targeting & Tracking System: O/P 1500 ARB
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Type/Model: Babyhammer Snubbie
Mass: 50 tons
Equipment: Crits Mass
Int. Struct.: 83 pts Standard 0 5.00
Engine: 200 Fusion 6 8.50
Walking MP: 4 [5]
Running MP: 6 [8]
Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks: 14 Double [28] 18 4.00
(Heat Sink Loc: 2 RA, 2 LT, 2 RT)
Gyro: 4 2.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors: 5 3.00
Triple Strength Myomer: 6 .00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA R: Sh+UA+LA 14 .00
Armor Factor: 168 pts Standard 0 10.50
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Head: 3 9
Center Torso: 16 23
Center Torso (Rear): 8
L/R Side Torso: 12 18/18
L/R Side Torso (Rear): 6/6
L/R Arm: 8 16/16
L/R Leg: 12 24/24
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass
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1 Snub nose PPC* RA 10 2 6.00
1 Snub nose PPC* LA 10 2 6.00
2 Medium Lasers RT 6 2 2.00
2 Medium Lasers LT 6 2 2.00
1 Small Laser CT 1 1 .50
1 ER Small Laser CT 2 1 .50
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TOTALS: 35 63 50.00
Crits & Tons Left: 15 .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 5,187,250 C-Bills
Battle Value 2: 1,565 (old BV = 1,193)
Cost per BV2: 3,314.54
Weapon Value: 2,019 / 2,019 (Ratio = 1.29 / 1.29)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 31; MRDmg = 16; LRDmg = 1
BattleForce2: MP: 4, Armor/Structure: 4/4
Damage PB/M/L: 5/3/-, Overheat: 1
Class: MM; Point Value: 16
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| Author: | Cray [ Mon Jul 17, 2017 5:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: half a 'Hammer |
Good designs, lordwolf, they capture the feel of the Warhammer. I think the first one has almost as much armor, too.
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| Author: | deathshadow [ Sun Oct 08, 2017 3:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: half a 'Hammer |
When I saw "half" I thought a literal half, which would be far more efficient. 35 tons standard chassis, 5/8/0 standard engine, 10 single sinks PPC (RA), Medium Laser (LT), SRM-4 (LT) @1 (LA), 2xMG (CT) @0.5 (LA) Ammo in the arm is poor man's 3025 CASE. You at least have a CHANCE. Though my favorite advanced tech Whammy is pretty much the original dropping ten tons with endo whilst not really changing the weapon load other than tossing a flamer in the head, switching to light MG's, and using a trio of STK-2's instead of a normal -6 since canon-wise the IS had only -2's first so it should be more common/plentiful. I generally do NOT find the range increase of the ERPPC worth the heat, nor do I find the point blank (by my view) range of the snubby something you'd heat bracket against. |
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