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| Author: | Karagin [ Mon Oct 30, 2017 7:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Design Contest |
Let's see what you folks come up with: Talk the Hollander and make it into a LAM, one catch it has to keep it's main weapon. |
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| Author: | cobayashimaru [ Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Design Contest |
there are two versions listed in HMPro, i guess you are talking about the gausrifle-variant? |
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| Author: | cobayashimaru [ Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Design Contest |
QND: Exchange the engine with an XXL Version, endosteel with Composite, Gyro with xl-Gyro, raise weight to 40 tons and voila: Code: BattleMech Technical Readout
Type/Model: Hollander LAM BZK-F3
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3055
Config: Land Air BattleMech
Rules: Level 3, Standard design
Mass: 40 tons
Chassis: Coventry BZK-III Composite
Power Plant: 200 Omni XXL Fusion
Walking Speed: 54,0 km/h
Maximum Speed: 86,4 km/h
Jump Jets: 5 Standard Jump Jets
Jump Capacity: 150 meters
Armor Type: Lexington Limited High Grade Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
1 Gauss Rifle
Manufacturer: Coventry Metal Works
Location: Coventry
Communications System: TharHes Muse 54-58K
Targeting & Tracking System: Cyclops 9
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Type/Model: Hollander LAM BZK-F3
Mass: 40 tons
Construction Options: Fractional Accounting
Equipment: Crits Mass
Int. Struct.: 67 pts Composite 0 2,00
Engine: 200 XXL Fusion 18 2,84
Walking MP: 5
Running MP: 8
Jumping MP: 5 [15]
Heat Sinks: 10 Single 2 ,00
(Heat Sink Loc: 1 LL, 1 RL)
XL Gyro: 6 1,00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors: 5 3,00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA+H R: Sh+UA+LA+H 16 ,00
Armor Factor: 137 pts Ferro-Fibrous 14 7,65
(Armor Crit Loc: 1 HD, 5 RA, 3 LT, 3 RT, 1 LL, 1 RL)
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Head: 3 9
Center Torso: 12 18
Center Torso (Rear): 6
L/R Side Torso: 10 15/15
L/R Side Torso (Rear): 5/5
L/R Arm: 6 12/12
L/R Leg: 10 20/20
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass
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1 Gauss Rifle LA 1 16 9 17,00
(Ammo Locations: 1 LA, 1 LT)
5 Standard Jump Jets: 5 2,50
(Jump Jet Loc: 2 LT, 3 RT)
LAM Conversion Equipment: 0 4,00
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TOTALS: 1 75 39,99
Crits & Tons Left: 3 ,01
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 30.943.664 C-Bills
Battle Value 2: 1.447 (old BV = 1.666)
Cost per BV2: 21.384,7
Weapon Value: 467 / 467 (Ratio = ,32 / ,32)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 14; MRDmg = 11; LRDmg = 7
BattleForce2: MP: 5J, Armor/Structure: 3/2
Damage PB/M/L: 2/2/2, Overheat: 0
Class: MM; Point Value: 14
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| Author: | Karagin [ Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Design Contest |
Impressive, expensive but impressive. |
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| Author: | cobayashimaru [ Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Design Contest |
the 45-ton Version has a movement of 6-9-6 all the 10 HS are in the engine, and i exchanged them for doubles so there is no Need to worry about heat. Code: BattleMech Technical Readout
Type/Model: Hollander LAM BZK-F3
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3055
Config: Land Air BattleMech
Rules: Level 3, Standard design
Mass: 45 tons
Chassis: Coventry BZK-III Composite
Power Plant: 270 Omni XXL Fusion
Walking Speed: 64,8 km/h
Maximum Speed: 97,2 km/h
Jump Jets: 6 Standard Jump Jets
Jump Capacity: 180 meters
Armor Type: Lexington Limited High Grade Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
1 Gauss Rifle
Manufacturer: Coventry Metal Works
Location: Coventry
Communications System: TharHes Muse 54-58K
Targeting & Tracking System: Cyclops 9
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==Overview:==
==Capabilities:==
==Variants:==
==Deployment==
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Type/Model: Hollander LAM BZK-F3
Mass: 45 tons
Construction Options: Fractional Accounting
Equipment: Crits Mass
Int. Struct.: 75 pts Composite 0 2,25
Engine: 270 XXL Fusion 18 4,84
Walking MP: 6
Running MP: 9
Jumping MP: 6 [18]
Heat Sinks: 10 Double [20] 0 ,00
XL Gyro: 6 1,50
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors: 5 3,00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA+H R: Sh+UA+LA+H 16 ,00
Armor Factor: 153 pts Ferro-Fibrous 14 8,54
(Armor Crit Loc: 1 HD, 6 RA, 2 LT, 3 RT, 1 LL, 1 RL)
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Head: 3 9
Center Torso: 14 21
Center Torso (Rear): 7
L/R Side Torso: 11 16/16
L/R Side Torso (Rear): 6/6
L/R Arm: 7 14/14
L/R Leg: 11 22/22
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass
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1 Gauss Rifle LA 1 16 9 17,00
(Ammo Locations: 1 LA, 1 LT)
6 Standard Jump Jets: 6 3,00
(Jump Jet Loc: 3 LT, 3 RT)
LAM Conversion Equipment: 0 4,50
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TOTALS: 1 74 44,63
Crits & Tons Left: 4 ,37
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 47.639.025 C-Bills
Battle Value 2: 1.628 (old BV = 1.901)
Cost per BV2: 29.262,3
Weapon Value: 591 / 591 (Ratio = ,36 / ,36)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 14; MRDmg = 11; LRDmg = 7
BattleForce2: MP: 6J, Armor/Structure: 4/2
Damage PB/M/L: 2/2/2, Overheat: 0
Class: MM; Point Value: 16
the 55 ton Version has an added heatsink and two ERMLs as secondary weapon.Code: BattleMech Technical Readout
UNDISTRIBUTED
Type/Model: Hollander LAM BZK-F3
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3055
Config: Land Air BattleMech
Rules: Level 3, Standard design
Mass: 55 tons
Chassis: Coventry BZK-III Composite
Power Plant: 330 Omni XXL Fusion
Walking Speed: 64,8 km/h
Maximum Speed: 97,2 km/h
Jump Jets: 6 Standard Jump Jets
Jump Capacity: 180 meters
Armor Type: Lexington Limited High Grade Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
2 ER Medium Lasers
1 Gauss Rifle
Manufacturer: Coventry Metal Works
Location: Coventry
Communications System: TharHes Muse 54-58K
Targeting & Tracking System: Cyclops 9
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==Overview:==
==Capabilities:==
==Variants:==
==Deployment==
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Type/Model: Hollander LAM BZK-F3
Mass: 55 tons
Construction Options: Fractional Accounting
Equipment: Crits Mass
Int. Struct.: 91 pts Composite 0 2,75
Engine: 330 XXL Fusion 18 8,17
Walking MP: 6
Running MP: 9
Jumping MP: 6 [18]
Heat Sinks: 11 Double [22] 0 1,00
XL Gyro: 6 2,00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors: 5 3,00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA+H R: Sh+UA+LA+H 16 ,00
Armor Factor: 185 pts Ferro-Fibrous 14 10,32
(Armor Crit Loc: 1 HD, 4 RA, 2 LT, 3 RT, 2 LL, 2 RL)
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Head: 3 9
Center Torso: 18 27
Center Torso (Rear): 9
L/R Side Torso: 13 20/20
L/R Side Torso (Rear): 6/6
L/R Arm: 9 18/18
L/R Leg: 13 26/26
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass
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2 ER Medium Lasers -- 10 2 2,00
1 Gauss Rifle LA 1 16 9 17,00
(Ammo Locations: 1 LA, 1 LT)
6 Standard Jump Jets: 6 3,00
(Jump Jet Loc: 3 LT, 3 RT)
LAM Conversion Equipment: 0 5,50
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TOTALS: 11 76 54,74
Crits & Tons Left: 2 ,26
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 74.567.168 C-Bills
Battle Value 2: 2.060 (old BV = 2.444)
Cost per BV2: 36.197,65
Weapon Value: 1.246 / 1.246 (Ratio = ,60 / ,60)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 22; MRDmg = 14; LRDmg = 7
BattleForce2: MP: 6J, Armor/Structure: 5/2
Damage PB/M/L: 3/3/2, Overheat: 0
Class: MM; Point Value: 21
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| Author: | cobayashimaru [ Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Design Contest |
finally: the Clantech-Version Code: BattleMech Technical Readout
Type/Model: Hollander LAM BZK-F3
Tech: Clan / 3055
Config: Land Air BattleMech
Rules: Level 3, Standard design
Mass: 55 tons
Chassis: Coventry BZK-III Composite
Power Plant: 330 Omni XXL Fusion
Walking Speed: 64,8 km/h
Maximum Speed: 97,2 km/h
Jump Jets: 6 Standard Jump Jets
Jump Capacity: 180 meters
Armor Type: Lexington Limited High Grade Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
2 ER Medium Lasers
2 Micro Pulse Lasers
1 Gauss Rifle
Manufacturer: Coventry Metal Works
Location: Coventry
Communications System: TharHes Muse 54-58K
Targeting & Tracking System: Cyclops 9
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==Overview:==
==Capabilities:==
==Variants:==
==Deployment==
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Type/Model: Hollander LAM BZK-F3
Mass: 55 tons
Construction Options: Fractional Accounting
Equipment: Crits Mass
Int. Struct.: 91 pts Composite 0 2,75
Engine: 330 XXL Fusion 14 8,17
Walking MP: 6
Running MP: 9
Jumping MP: 6 [18]
Heat Sinks: 13 Double [26] 0 3,00
XL Gyro: 6 2,00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors: 5 3,00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA+H R: Sh+UA+LA+H 16 ,00
Armor Factor: 184 pts Ferro-Fibrous 7 9,58
(Armor Crit Loc: 3 LA, 2 RA, 2 RT)
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Head: 3 9
Center Torso: 18 26
Center Torso (Rear): 9
L/R Side Torso: 13 20/20
L/R Side Torso (Rear): 6/6
L/R Arm: 9 18/18
L/R Leg: 13 26/26
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass
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1 ER Medium Laser RA 5 1 1,00
1 Micro Pulse Laser RA 1 1 ,50
1 ER Medium Laser LA 5 1 1,00
1 Micro Pulse Laser LA 1 1 ,50
1 Gauss Rifle LT 1 24 9 15,00
(Ammo Locations: 1 LT, 2 RT)
6 Standard Jump Jets: 6 3,00
(Jump Jet Loc: 1 LT, 1 RT, 2 LL, 2 RL)
LAM Conversion Equipment: 0 5,50
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TOTALS: 13 67 55,00
Crits & Tons Left: 11 ,00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 74.817.260 C-Bills
Battle Value 2: 2.413 (old BV = 2.995)
Cost per BV2: 31.005,91
Weapon Value: 1.708 / 1.708 (Ratio = ,71 / ,71)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 27; MRDmg = 18; LRDmg = 8
BattleForce2: MP: 6J, Armor/Structure: 5/2
Damage PB/M/L: 4/3/2, Overheat: 0
Class: MM; Point Value: 24
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| Author: | chihawk [ Thu Nov 02, 2017 9:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Design Contest |
I have deleted all of Chip's posts senseless posts using the snrdg101206 name, and the replies to them. Any post not specifically related to this thread in this thread will be deleted. In other words Chip/snrdg101206/whomever...don't bother replying. |
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| Author: | cobayashimaru [ Sat Nov 04, 2017 12:20 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Design Contest |
i tried to do a somewhat cheaper Version Code: BattleMech Technical Readout
Type/Model: Hollander 45 IS CH
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3055
Config: Land Air BattleMech
Rules: Level 3, Standard design
Mass: 45 tons
Chassis: Coventry BZK-III Composite
Power Plant: 225 Omni XL Fusion
Walking Speed: 54,0 km/h
Maximum Speed: 86,4 km/h
Jump Jets: 4 Standard Jump Jets
Jump Capacity: 120 meters
Armor Type: Lexington Limited High Grade Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
1 Poland Main Model A Gauss Rifle
Manufacturer: Coventry Metal Works
Location: Coventry
Communications System: TharHes Muse 54-58K
Targeting & Tracking System: Cyclops 9
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Type/Model: Hollander 45 IS CH
Mass: 45 tons
Equipment: Crits Mass
Int. Struct.: 75 pts Composite 0 2,50
Engine: 225 XL Fusion 12 5,00
Walking MP: 5
Running MP: 8
Jumping MP: 4 [12]
Heat Sinks: 10 Single 1 ,00
(Heat Sink Loc: 1 CT)
Gyro: 4 3,00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors: 5 3,00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA+H R: Sh+UA+LA+H 16 ,00
Armor Factor: 143 pts Ferro-Fibrous 14 8,00
(Armor Crit Loc: 1 HD, 4 LA, 4 RA, 5 LT)
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Head: 3 9
Center Torso: 14 18
Center Torso (Rear): 6
L/R Side Torso: 11 16/16
L/R Side Torso (Rear): 5/5
L/R Arm: 7 13/13
L/R Leg: 11 21/21
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass
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1 Gauss Rifle RT 1 16 9 17,00
(Ammo Locations: 2 RT)
4 Standard Jump Jets: 4 2,00
(Jump Jet Loc: 2 LL, 2 RL)
LAM Conversion Equipment: 0 4,50
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TOTALS: 1 65 45,00
Crits & Tons Left: 13 ,00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 12.175.432 C-Bills
Battle Value 2: 1.385 (old BV = 1.541)
Cost per BV2: 8.790,93
Weapon Value: 492 / 492 (Ratio = ,36 / ,36)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 14; MRDmg = 11; LRDmg = 7
BattleForce2: MP: 5, Armor/Structure: 4/2
Damage PB/M/L: 2/2/2, Overheat: 0
Class: MM; Point Value: 14
the clan Version adds a TCCode: BattleMech Technical Readout
Type/Model: Hollander 45 CL CH
Tech: Clan / 3055
Config: Land Air BattleMech
Rules: Level 3, Standard design
Mass: 45 tons
Chassis: Coventry BZK-III Composite
Power Plant: 225 Omni XL Fusion
Walking Speed: 54,0 km/h
Maximum Speed: 86,4 km/h
Jump Jets: 4 Standard Jump Jets
Jump Capacity: 120 meters
Armor Type: Lexington Limited High Grade Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
1 Poland Main Model A Gauss Rifle
Manufacturer: Coventry Metal Works
Location: Coventry
Communications System: TharHes Muse 54-58K
Targeting & Tracking System: Cyclops 9
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Type/Model: Hollander 45 CL CH
Mass: 45 tons
Equipment: Crits Mass
Int. Struct.: 75 pts Composite 0 2,50
Engine: 225 XL Fusion 10 5,00
Walking MP: 5
Running MP: 8
Jumping MP: 4 [12]
Heat Sinks: 10 Single 1 ,00
(Heat Sink Loc: 1 HD)
Gyro: 4 3,00
Cockpit, Life Supt.: 5 3,00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA+H R: Sh+UA+LA+H 16 ,00
Armor Factor: 153 pts Ferro-Fibrous 7 8,00
(Armor Crit Loc: 2 LA, 1 RA, 1 LT, 1 CT, 1 LL, 1 RL)
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Head: 3 9
Center Torso: 14 21
Center Torso (Rear): 7
L/R Side Torso: 11 16/16
L/R Side Torso (Rear): 6/6
L/R Arm: 7 14/14
L/R Leg: 11 22/22
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass
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1 Gauss Rifle RT 1 16 8 14,00
(Ammo Locations: 2 RT)
1 Targeting Computer LT 3 3,00
4 Standard Jump Jets: 4 2,00
(Jump Jet Loc: 2 LT, 2 RT)
LAM Conversion Equipment: 0 4,50
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TOTALS: 1 58 45,00
Crits & Tons Left: 20 ,00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 12.378.432 C-Bills
Battle Value 2: 1.595 (old BV = 1.787)
Cost per BV2: 7.760,77
Weapon Value: 663 / 663 (Ratio = ,42 / ,42)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 15; MRDmg = 12; LRDmg = 9
BattleForce2: MP: 5, Armor/Structure: 4/3
Damage PB/M/L: 2/2/2, Overheat: 0
Class: MM; Point Value: 16
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| Author: | Karagin [ Sun Nov 05, 2017 9:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Design Contest |
All of the offered examples are impressive and I think they would offer the value of a surprise since no one would expect a LAM to have that kind of firepower. |
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| Author: | Rockjock01 [ Sun Nov 12, 2017 5:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Design Contest |
You should extend it to the LBX version as well. I mean you need a LAM fighter escort right? |
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| Author: | Karagin [ Mon Nov 13, 2017 1:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Design Contest |
If y'all want to post a LBX LAM version that is cool with me. |
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| Author: | deathshadow [ Fri Dec 22, 2017 2:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Design Contest |
Make it 50 tons, give it 5 jets, done. Ends up with roughly the same armor as the original -- using either the F1 or G3. |
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