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Karagin
 Post subject: Warwolf WW9-F4
PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 3:03 pm 
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               BattleMech Technical Readout
                     Custom* Weapons

Type/Model:    Warwolf WW9-F4
Tech:          Inner Sphere / 3132
Config:        Biped BattleMech
Rules:         Level 2, Standard design

Mass:          40 tons
Chassis:       War Class Mark 1 Endo Steel
Power Plant:   240 Type XIV XL Fusion
Walking Speed: 64.8 km/h
Maximum Speed: 97.2 km/h
Jump Jets:     None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor Type:    Achillies Shield w/CASE Standard
Armament:      
  2 Tharsiss Hellborne Plasma Rifles*
  2 Browning Machine Gun Machine Guns
Manufacturer:  Tharsiss Heavy Industries and Foundry
  Location:    Mars, Titan
Communications System:  ComStar Rover
Targeting & Tracking System:  Mortan Hindsight TTS

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==Overview:==
The Warwolf is primarily designed to perform reconnaissance missions deep
behind enemy lines. As the forward scouts of any battle group or force they
typically range far ahead of the main battle and operate in pairs in order to
cover more ground and defend against any enemy units they might encounter. In
major engagements they prefer to operate on the flanks and seek out "soft"
targets such as enemy infantry and enemy armor units, against which their
lighter weapons can be used to their advantage.



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Type/Model:    Warwolf WW9-F4
Mass:          40 tons

Equipment:                                 Crits    Mass
Int. Struct.:  67 pts Endo Steel            14      2.00
 (Endo Steel Loc: 1 HD, 2 LA, 2 RA, 2 LT, 2 RT, 1 CT, 2 LL, 2 RL)
Engine:        240 XL Fusion                12      6.00
   Walking MP:   6
   Running MP:   9
   Jumping MP:   0
Heat Sinks:     11 Double [22]               6      1.00
 (Heat Sink Loc: 1 LT, 1 RT)
Gyro:                                        4      3.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors:                5      3.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA+H    R: Sh+UA+LA+H   16       .00
Armor Factor:  136 pts Standard              0      8.50

                          Internal    Armor
                          Structure   Value
   Head:                      3          9      
   Center Torso:             12         17      
   Center Torso (Rear):                  6      
   L/R Side Torso:           10      15/15      
   L/R Side Torso (Rear):              5/5      
   L/R Arm:                   6      12/12      
   L/R Leg:                  10      20/20      

Weapons and Equipment    Loc  Heat  Ammo   Crits    Mass
--------------------------------------------------------
1 Plasma Rifle*          RA     10   20      4      8.00
  (Ammo Locations: 1 LT, 1 RT)
1 Machine Gun            RA      0  100      2      1.00
  (Ammo Locations: 1 RT)
1 Plasma Rifle*          LA     10           2      6.00
1 Machine Gun            LA      0           1       .50
CASE Equipment:          LT     RT           2      1.00
--------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                         20          68     40.00
Crits & Tons Left:                          10       .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        6,694,660 C-Bills
Battle Value 2:    1,298 (old BV = 1,182)
Cost per BV2:      5,157.67
Weapon Value:      976 / 976 (Ratio = .75 / .75)
Damage Factors:    SRDmg = 18;  MRDmg = 11;  LRDmg = 1
BattleForce2:      MP: 6,  Armor/Structure: 3/2
                   Damage PB/M/L: 3/2/-,  Overheat: 0
                   Class: MM;  Point Value: 13

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Rockjock01
 Post subject: Re: Warwolf WW9-F4
PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 5:40 pm 
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What made you go with paired Plasmas here over something with less ammo dependency? As is I see it more as an updated Firestarter in the anti-conventional role. It doesn't have the speed, sensors, or staying power to make a top flight scout in my opinion, but a switched weapon or two could improve several of those categories.
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Karagin
 Post subject: Re: Warwolf WW9-F4
PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:09 pm 
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Going with the idea that it could leave a burning wake in it's path as it ran in and did its' damage and the Plasma weapons seemed like a good idea since the Flamer is to short of range, and the Plasma weapon sounds like a good in-between solution.

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 Post subject: Re: Warwolf WW9-F4
PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:15 pm 
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I can buy the Plasmas being used as a longer range Flamer to cause chaos. I'm going to play your version and see if the speed really gets me in trouble.

Here is my hodgepodge version. Same basic mech with a few changes, and revamped weapons.. Light FF, and TSM replace the standard versions of each. The switch in building materials doesn't give a protection increase, but does give the running boost of TSM to let my version cover more range, even in fires while banking a bit of tonnage for other modifications. Weapons are a big change. Instead of paired MGs and Plasmas I have four different weapons. A Snubbie and ER Flamer combo in one arm give better staying power due to their lack of ammo. The other arm keeps the Plasma, now with double the effective ammo, and a SPL to keep some of the infantry. One side torso CASE is dropped due to the consolidation of the Plasma ammo. Finally the extra DHS is dropped with a Beagle Active Probe replacing it.

My version ends up a somewhat faster, with more staying power and better sensors in exchange for being more expensive, and having a mismatch of weapons to deal with.
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               BattleMech Technical Readout
                     Custom* Weapons

Type/Model:    Warwolf RJ
Tech:          Inner Sphere / 3025
Config:        Biped BattleMech
Rules:         Level 3, Standard design

Mass:          40 tons
Chassis:       Endo Steel
Power Plant:   240 Pitban XL Fusion
Walking Speed: 64.8 km/h
Maximum Speed: 97.2 [118.8] km/h
Jump Jets:     None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor Type:    Light Ferro-Fibrous 
Armament:      
  1 Plasma Rifle*
  1 Small Pulse Laser
  1 Snub nose PPC*
  1 ER Flamer*
  1 Beagle Active Probe
Manufacturer:  (Unknown)
  Location:    (Unknown)
Communications System:  (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System:  (Unknown)

--------------------------------------------------------
Type/Model:    Warwolf RJ
Mass:          40 tons

Equipment:                                 Crits    Mass
Int. Struct.:  67 pts Endo Steel            14      2.00
 (Endo Steel Loc: 3 LA, 3 RA, 3 LT, 3 RT, 1 LL, 1 RL)
Engine:        240 XL Fusion                12      6.00
   Walking MP:   6 [7]
   Running MP:   9 [11]
   Jumping MP:   0
Heat Sinks:     10 Double [20]               3       .00
 (Heat Sink Loc: 1 LT)
Gyro:                                        4      3.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors:                5      3.00
Triple Strength Myomer:                      6       .00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA+H    R: Sh+UA+LA+H   16       .00
Armor Factor:  136 pts Light Ferro-Fibrous   7      8.00
 (Armor Crit Loc: 1 HD, 1 LA, 1 RA, 1 LT, 1 RT, 1 LL, 1 RL)

                          Internal    Armor
                          Structure   Value
   Head:                      3          9      
   Center Torso:             12         17      
   Center Torso (Rear):                  6      
   L/R Side Torso:           10      15/15      
   L/R Side Torso (Rear):              5/5      
   L/R Arm:                   6      12/12      
   L/R Leg:                  10      20/20      

Weapons and Equipment    Loc  Heat  Ammo   Crits    Mass
--------------------------------------------------------
1 Plasma Rifle*          RA     10   20      4      8.00
  (Ammo Locations: 2 RT)
1 Small Pulse Laser      RA      2           1      1.00
1 Snub nose PPC*         LA     10           2      6.00
1 ER Flamer*             LA      4           1      1.00
1 Beagle Active Probe    CT      0           2      1.50
CASE Equipment:          RT                  1       .50
--------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                         26          78     40.00
Crits & Tons Left:                           0       .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        7,813,960 C-Bills
Battle Value 2:    1,484 (old BV = 1,101)
Cost per BV2:      5,265.47
Weapon Value:      952 / 952 (Ratio = .64 / .64)
Damage Factors:    SRDmg = 18;  MRDmg = 13;  LRDmg = 1
BattleForce2:      MP: 6,  Armor/Structure: 3/2
                   Damage PB/M/L: 3/2/-,  Overheat: 0
                   Class: MM;  Point Value: 15
                   Specials: prb


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Karagin
 Post subject: Re: Warwolf WW9-F4
PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 11:27 pm 
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Interesting, I like your changes, good for a variant or "new" version that could come along over time. The overall role didn't change and the price is more but the cost is covered though.

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 Post subject: Re: Warwolf WW9-F4
PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 2:57 am 
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I could definitely see my variant being a later addition with more bells and whistles. I can also see my version, or one with a Guardian switched for the Beagle being a lance commander, or less common version of the base mech as you laid it out.
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 Post subject: Re: Warwolf WW9-F4
PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 10:38 pm 
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isee this as a Support variant:
Code:
               BattleMech Technical Readout

Type/Model:    Untitled 'Mech 
Tech:          Inner Sphere / 3025
Config:        Biped BattleMech
Rules:         Level 3, Standard design

Mass:          40 tons
Chassis:       Composite
Power Plant:   240 Pitban XL Fusion
Walking Speed: 64,8 km/h
Maximum Speed: 97,2 [118,8] km/h
Jump Jets:     None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor Type:    Ferro-Fibrous 
Armament:      
  2 LRM 5s
  1 ER Large Laser
  1 Beagle Active Probe
  1 Small Pulse Laser
  2 Flamers
Manufacturer:  (Unknown)
  Location:    (Unknown)
Communications System:  (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System:  (Unknown)

--------------------------------------------------------
Type/Model:    Untitled 'Mech 
Mass:          40 tons
Construction Options:  Fractional Accounting

Equipment:                                 Crits    Mass
Int. Struct.:  67 pts Composite              0      2,00
Engine:        240 XL Fusion                12      5,75
   Walking MP:   6 [7]
   Running MP:   9 [11]
   Jumping MP:   0
Heat Sinks:     10 Double [20]               3       ,00
 (Heat Sink Loc: 1 RT)
Gyro:                                        4      3,00
Cockpit, Life Supt.:                         5      3,00
Triple Strength Myomer:                      6       ,00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA+H    R: Sh+UA+LA+H   16       ,00
Armor Factor:  137 pts Ferro-Fibrous        14      7,65
 (Armor Crit Loc: 3 LA, 3 RA, 2 LT, 2 RT, 2 CT, 1 LL, 1 RL)

                          Internal    Armor
                          Structure   Value
   Head:                      3          9      
   Center Torso:             12         18      
   Center Torso (Rear):                  6      
   L/R Side Torso:           10      15/15      
   L/R Side Torso (Rear):              5/5      
   L/R Arm:                   6      12/12      
   L/R Leg:                  10      20/20      

Weapons and Equipment    Loc  Heat  Ammo   Crits    Mass
--------------------------------------------------------
2 LRM 5s                 RA      4   72      5      7,00
  (Ammo Locations: 3 RA)
1 ER Large Laser         LA     12           2      5,00
1 Beagle Active Probe    LT      0           2      1,50
1 Small Pulse Laser      HD      2           1      1,00
1 Flamer                 LL      3           1      1,00
1 Flamer                 RL      3           1      1,00
1 Targeting Computer     RT                  2      2,00
--------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                         24          74     39,90
Crits & Tons Left:                           4       ,10

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        7.496.160 C-Bills
Battle Value 2:    1.195 (old BV = 839)
Cost per BV2:      6.272,94
Weapon Value:      783 / 783 (Ratio = ,66 / ,66)
Damage Factors:    SRDmg = 14;  MRDmg = 11;  LRDmg = 6
BattleForce2:      MP: 6,  Armor/Structure: 3/2
                   Damage PB/M/L: 2/1/1,  Overheat: 1
                   Class: MM;  Point Value: 12
                   Specials: prb
the TC/ERLL Combo is good for precision Support fire while the LRM5s could lay mines or ignite fires at a distance, the 3 tons of ammo for the LRMs allow for a combination of HE/INC/FASCAM
id say: 6 original Version with two alternate Version for Lance commanders, and four of mine for support-Lance.

another Version would replace the LRMs and flamers with another ERLL and a few more DHS:
Code:
               BattleMech Technical Readout

Type/Model:    Untitled 'Mech 
Tech:          Inner Sphere / 3025
Config:        Biped BattleMech
Rules:         Level 3, Standard design

Mass:          40 tons
Chassis:       Composite
Power Plant:   240 Pitban XL Fusion
Walking Speed: 64,8 km/h
Maximum Speed: 97,2 [118,8] km/h
Jump Jets:     None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor Type:    Ferro-Fibrous 
Armament:      
  2 ER Large Lasers
  1 Small Pulse Laser
  1 Beagle Active Probe
Manufacturer:  (Unknown)
  Location:    (Unknown)
Communications System:  (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System:  (Unknown)

--------------------------------------------------------
Type/Model:    Untitled 'Mech 
Mass:          40 tons
Construction Options:  Fractional Accounting

Equipment:                                 Crits    Mass
Int. Struct.:  67 pts Composite              0      2,00
Engine:        240 XL Fusion                12      5,75
   Walking MP:   6 [7]
   Running MP:   9 [11]
   Jumping MP:   0
Heat Sinks:     13 Double [26]              12      3,00
 (Heat Sink Loc: 2 LT, 2 RT)
Gyro:                                        4      3,00
Cockpit, Life Supt.:                         5      3,00
Triple Strength Myomer:                      6       ,00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA    R: Sh+UA             12       ,00
Armor Factor:  137 pts Ferro-Fibrous        14      7,65
 (Armor Crit Loc: 4 LA, 5 RA, 2 CT, 2 LL, 1 RL)

                          Internal    Armor
                          Structure   Value
   Head:                      3          9      
   Center Torso:             12         18      
   Center Torso (Rear):                  6      
   L/R Side Torso:           10      15/15      
   L/R Side Torso (Rear):              5/5      
   L/R Arm:                   6      12/12      
   L/R Leg:                  10      20/20      

Weapons and Equipment    Loc  Heat  Ammo   Crits    Mass
--------------------------------------------------------
1 ER Large Laser         RA     12           2      5,00
1 Small Pulse Laser      RA      2           1      1,00
1 ER Large Laser         LA     12           2      5,00
1 Beagle Active Probe    LT      0           2      1,50
1 Targeting Computer     RT                  3      3,00
--------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                         26          75     39,90
Crits & Tons Left:                           3       ,10

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        7.569.800 C-Bills
Battle Value 2:    1.406 (old BV = 1.112)
Cost per BV2:      5.383,93
Weapon Value:      1.119 / 1.119 (Ratio = ,80 / ,80)
Damage Factors:    SRDmg = 17;  MRDmg = 13;  LRDmg = 7
BattleForce2:      MP: 6,  Armor/Structure: 3/2
                   Damage PB/M/L: 3/2/2,  Overheat: 0
                   Class: MM;  Point Value: 14
                   Specials: prb
the main reason why this might be combined with the plasma-versions would be ease of maintenance, as its the same chassis.

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 Post subject: Re: Warwolf WW9-F4
PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:00 am 
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I'm not sold on the composite structure, but I like the idea.


I have always liked the idea of of multiple models working off the same chassis/engine. It doesn't always make sense to run a lance of the exact same mech model, but it does make sense to run mechs with high parts compatibility together to ease logistics. Heck, I've been known to build companies and battalions based on a small handful of engine models when I'm bored.
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