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What if..? OK Alt. Universe setting (Thanks to CBT forums for the idea BTW). In 3025 inner sphere Battle Armor exists though no where near 'canon' tech levels.

No jump jets / quad BA / so armor type is 'prototype' only,
What do you think besides ...OH My God that is *****

Dave.

        Classic BattleTech Battle Armor Technical Readout
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Type/Model:    Trooper A
Tech/Era:      Inner Sphere / 3050 / CBT Rules
Chassis Type:  Humanoid
Weight Class:  Medium Battle Armor (751 - 1,000 kg)
Rules:         Level 2, Custom design

Ground Speed:  32.4 km/h
Armor Type:    Prototype

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Type/Model:    Trooper A
Equipment:                                          Slots    Mass
Chassis Type:  Medium Class Humanoid                  0       175
Motive System: Ground Movement (3 MP)                 0        80
Armor Type:    3 Points Prototype                     4       300

Manipulators:
  Left Arm:    Basic Manipulator                      0         0
  Right Arm:   Basic Manipulator                      0         0

Weapons and Equipment                Loc     Shots  Slots    Mass
------------------------------------------------------------------
Machine Gun                          LA       250     2       120
Machine Gun                          RA       250     2       120
Camo System                          Body             2       200
------------------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                                              10       995
Slots & Mass Left:                                    0         5

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:     560,000 C-Bills, Including Trooper
                Training Costs of 150,000 C-bills
Battle Value:   25 (100 for 4)  Weapon Value: 7 (Ratio=.28)
Cost per BV:    16,400.0 (w/o Trooper Training costs)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 1   MRDmg = 0   LRDmg = 0
Mechanized:     Can travel on OmniMechs and OmniVehicles
Attacks:        Can perform Swarm and Leg attacks
BattleForce2:   Class: IB   MP: 3   Armor/Structure: 2 / 0
                Damage PB/M/L: 1/-/-   Overheat: 0
                Point Value: 1    Specials: mec, car4

CBT:RPG Data:   Armor Value (M/B/E/X): 5/5/6/5    Coverage: Full
                IR: 0,  ECM: 0,  Camo: +4
                Melee AP: 2,  Target Size Modifier: -1
                Movement Modifiers:
                  Walking: +3,  Running: +6,  Sprinting: +9
                Attribute Modifiers:  STR: +3,  DEX: -1,  RFL: -1
                Equipment Rating:  E/E/E

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        Classic BattleTech Battle Armor Technical Readout
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Type/Model:    Trooper B
Tech/Era:      Inner Sphere / 3050 / CBT Rules
Chassis Type:  Humanoid
Weight Class:  Medium Battle Armor (751 - 1,000 kg)
Rules:         Level 2, Custom design

Ground Speed:  32.4 km/h
Armor Type:    Prototype

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Type/Model:    Trooper B
Equipment:                                          Slots    Mass
Chassis Type:  Medium Class Humanoid                  0       175
Motive System: Ground Movement (3 MP)                 0        80
Armor Type:    3 Points Prototype                     4       300

Manipulators:
  Left Arm:    Basic Manipulator                      0         0
  Right Arm:   Basic Manipulator                      0         0

Weapons and Equipment                Loc     Shots  Slots    Mass
------------------------------------------------------------------
SRM 4                                Body       5     4       440
------------------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                                               8       995
Slots & Mass Left:                                    2         5

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:     365,400 C-Bills, Including Trooper
                Training Costs of 150,000 C-bills
Battle Value:   39 (156 for 4)  Weapon Value: 19 (Ratio=.49)
Cost per BV:    5,523.08 (w/o Trooper Training costs)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 4   MRDmg = 1   LRDmg = 0
Mechanized:     Can travel on OmniMechs and OmniVehicles
Attacks:        Can not perform Swarm or Leg attacks
BattleForce2:   Class: IB   MP: 3   Armor/Structure: 2 / 0
                Damage PB/M/L: 2/2/-   Overheat: 0
                Point Value: 2    Specials: mec, car4

CBT:RPG Data:   Armor Value (M/B/E/X): 5/5/6/5    Coverage: Full
                IR: 0,  ECM: 0,  Camo: 0
                Melee AP: 2,  Target Size Modifier: -1
                Movement Modifiers:
                  Walking: +2,  Running: +4,  Sprinting: +6
                Attribute Modifiers:  STR: +3,  DEX: -1,  RFL: -1
                Equipment Rating:  E/E/E

                Created by HeavyMetal Battle Armor

        Classic BattleTech Battle Armor Technical Readout
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Type/Model:    Trooper C
Tech/Era:      Inner Sphere / 3050 / CBT Rules
Chassis Type:  Humanoid
Weight Class:  Medium Battle Armor (751 - 1,000 kg)
Rules:         Level 2, Custom design

Ground Speed:  10.8 km/h
Armor Type:    Prototype

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Type/Model:    Trooper C
Equipment:                                          Slots    Mass
Chassis Type:  Medium Class Humanoid                  0       175
Motive System: Ground Movement (1 MP)                 0         0
Armor Type:    3 Points Prototype                     4       300

Manipulators:
  Left Arm:    Basic Manipulator                      0         0
  Right Arm:   Basic Manipulator                      0         0

Weapons and Equipment                Loc     Shots  Slots    Mass
------------------------------------------------------------------
Medium Laser                         Body      30     3       500
Power Pack                           Body             1        25
------------------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                                               8     1,000
Slots & Mass Left:                                    2         0

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:     331,000 C-Bills, Including Trooper
                Training Costs of 150,000 C-bills
Battle Value:   57 (228 for 4)  Weapon Value: 23 (Ratio=.40)
Cost per BV:    3,175.44 (w/o Trooper Training costs)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 4   MRDmg = 1   LRDmg = 0
Mechanized:     Can travel on OmniMechs and OmniVehicles
Attacks:        Can perform Swarm and Leg attacks
BattleForce2:   Class: IB   MP: 1   Armor/Structure: 2 / 0
                Damage PB/M/L: 2/2/-   Overheat: 0
                Point Value: 2    Specials: mec, car4

CBT:RPG Data:   Armor Value (M/B/E/X): 5/5/6/5    Coverage: Full
                IR: 0,  ECM: 0,  Camo: 0
                Melee AP: 2,  Target Size Modifier: -1
                Movement Modifiers:
                  Walking: -1,  Running: -2,  Sprinting: -3
                Attribute Modifiers:  STR: +3,  DEX: -1,  RFL: -1
                Equipment Rating:  E/E/E

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OK 3 more for the heck of it ,

If 3025 is to early for your liking, how about 3050 early days of Caln invasion ?.

Dave.

        Classic BattleTech Battle Armor Technical Readout
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Type/Model:    Trooper D
Tech/Era:      Inner Sphere / 3050 / CBT Rules
Chassis Type:  Humanoid
Weight Class:  Medium Battle Armor (751 - 1,000 kg)
Rules:         Level 2, Custom design

Ground Speed:  32.4 km/h
Armor Type:    Prototype

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Type/Model:    Trooper D
Equipment:                                          Slots    Mass
Chassis Type:  Medium Class Humanoid                  0       175
Motive System: Ground Movement (3 MP)                 0        80
Armor Type:    3 Points Prototype                     4       300

Manipulators:
  Left Arm:    Basic Manipulator                      0         0
  Right Arm:   Basic Manipulator                      0         0

Weapons and Equipment                Loc     Shots  Slots    Mass
------------------------------------------------------------------
Flamer                               LA        10     1       150
Support PPC                          RA        14     2       250
Remote Sensor Dispenser              Body             1        40
Searchlight                          Body             1         5
------------------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                                               9     1,000
Slots & Mass Left:                                    1         0

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:     362,500 C-Bills, Including Trooper
                Training Costs of 150,000 C-bills
Battle Value:   43 (172 for 4)  Weapon Value: 12 (Ratio=.28)
Cost per BV:    4,941.86 (w/o Trooper Training costs)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 2   MRDmg = 0   LRDmg = 0
Mechanized:     Can travel on OmniMechs and OmniVehicles
Attacks:        Can perform Swarm and Leg attacks
BattleForce2:   Class: IB   MP: 3   Armor/Structure: 2 / 0
                Damage PB/M/L: 1/1/-   Overheat: 0
                Point Value: 2    Specials: mec, car4

CBT:RPG Data:   Armor Value (M/B/E/X): 5/5/6/5    Coverage: Full
                IR: 0,  ECM: 0,  Camo: 0
                Melee AP: 2,  Target Size Modifier: -1
                Movement Modifiers:
                  Walking: +2,  Running: +4,  Sprinting: +6
                Attribute Modifiers:  STR: +3,  DEX: -1,  RFL: -2
                Equipment Rating:  E/E/E

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        Classic BattleTech Battle Armor Technical Readout
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Type/Model:    Trooper E
Tech/Era:      Inner Sphere / 3050 / CBT Rules
Chassis Type:  Humanoid
Weight Class:  Medium Battle Armor (751 - 1,000 kg)
Rules:         Level 2, Custom design

Ground Speed:  32.4 km/h
Armor Type:    Prototype

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Type/Model:    Trooper E
Equipment:                                          Slots    Mass
Chassis Type:  Medium Class Humanoid                  0       175
Motive System: Ground Movement (3 MP)                 0        80
Armor Type:    3 Points Prototype                     4       300

Manipulators:
  Left Arm:    Basic Manipulator                      0         0
  Right Arm:   Basic Manipulator                      0         0

Weapons and Equipment                Loc     Shots  Slots    Mass
------------------------------------------------------------------
Small Laser                          RA        30     1       200
Flamer                               LA        10     1       150
SRM 1                                Body       3     2        90
Searchlight                          Body             1         5
------------------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                                               9     1,000
Slots & Mass Left:                                    1         0

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:     365,060 C-Bills, Including Trooper
                Training Costs of 150,000 C-bills
Battle Value:   31 (124 for 4)  Weapon Value: 15 (Ratio=.48)
Cost per BV:    6,937.42 (w/o Trooper Training costs)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 3   MRDmg = 0   LRDmg = 0
Mechanized:     Can travel on OmniMechs and OmniVehicles
Attacks:        Can not perform Swarm or Leg attacks
BattleForce2:   Class: IB   MP: 3   Armor/Structure: 2 / 0
                Damage PB/M/L: 2/-/-   Overheat: 0
                Point Value: 1    Specials: mec, car4

CBT:RPG Data:   Armor Value (M/B/E/X): 5/5/6/5    Coverage: Full
                IR: 0,  ECM: 0,  Camo: 0
                Melee AP: 2,  Target Size Modifier: -1
                Movement Modifiers:
                  Walking: +2,  Running: +4,  Sprinting: +6
                Attribute Modifiers:  STR: +3,  DEX: -1,  RFL: -1
                Equipment Rating:  E/E/E

                Created by HeavyMetal Battle Armor

        Classic BattleTech Battle Armor Technical Readout
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Type/Model:    Trooper F
Tech/Era:      Inner Sphere / 3050 / CBT Rules
Chassis Type:  Humanoid
Weight Class:  Medium Battle Armor (751 - 1,000 kg)
Rules:         Level 2, Standard design

Ground Speed:  21.6 km/h
Armor Type:    Prototype

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Type/Model:    Trooper F
Equipment:                                          Slots    Mass
Chassis Type:  Medium Class Humanoid                  0       175
Motive System: Ground Movement (2 MP)                 0        40
Armor Type:    2 Points Prototype                     4       200

Manipulators:
  Left Arm:    Basic Manipulator                      0         0
  Right Arm:   Basic Manipulator                      0         0

Weapons and Equipment                Loc     Shots  Slots    Mass
------------------------------------------------------------------
Machine Gun                          RA       150     2       110
Heavy Recoilless Rifle               Body      40     4       405
  (with High-Explosive Ammo)
------------------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                                              10       930
Slots & Mass Left:                                    0        70

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:     319,600 C-Bills, Including Trooper
                Training Costs of 150,000 C-bills
Battle Value:   41 (164 for 4)  Weapon Value: 11 (Ratio=.27)
Cost per BV:    4,136.59 (w/o Trooper Training costs)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 3   MRDmg = 0   LRDmg = 0
Mechanized:     Can travel on OmniMechs and OmniVehicles
Attacks:        Can perform Swarm and Leg attacks
BattleForce2:   Class: IB   MP: 2   Armor/Structure: 1 / 0
                Damage PB/M/L: 2/1/-   Overheat: 0
                Point Value: 2    Specials: mec, car4

CBT:RPG Data:   Armor Value (M/B/E/X): 4/5/6/5    Coverage: Full
                IR: 0,  ECM: 0,  Camo: 0
                Melee AP: 2,  Target Size Modifier: -1
                Movement Modifiers:
                  Walking: +1,  Running: +2,  Sprinting: +3
                Attribute Modifiers:  STR: +3,  DEX: -1,  RFL: -1
                Equipment Rating:  E/E/E

                Created by HeavyMetal Battle Armor

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Interesting, I know that in an issue of Future Wars there was an article about Battlearmor or as they called it power armor, saying it was the poor mans Battlemech and it used all 3025 tech.

The Empire Class trooper I posted was taken from Star Date and used nothing but what was suppose to be SL tech prior to all of the stuff in TRO2750 coming out.

So the idea is plausible and worth looking into.

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Thanks, I know the armor level might be low for some people's taste, but I would hate to be in 'mech, in a urban area if a unit (say as in canon 4) of these battle armor attack me especially Trooper C

Dave.

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Trooper D looks to be the one that has more to be worried about then others...

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This might sound / seem dumb ... in what sence ?.

Dave.

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Sorry, it should read:

Trooper D is the one they have to be more worried about then the others.

To expand on that it has the flamer, it as the remote sensor dispenser, nothing like walking by something and the enemy now knows you are there and the support PPC is not something to be taken lightly.

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Thanks, understand & totally agree with you.
Dave.

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OK 3 more designs this time Light Scout Battle Armor.

Dave.

        Classic BattleTech Battle Armor Technical Readout
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Type/Model:    Scout A
Tech/Era:      Inner Sphere / 3050 / CBT Rules
Chassis Type:  Humanoid
Weight Class:  Light Battle Armor (401 - 750 kg)
Rules:         Level 2, Custom design

Ground Speed:  32.4 km/h
Armor Type:    Standard

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Type/Model:    Scout A
Equipment:                                          Slots    Mass
Chassis Type:  Light Class Humanoid                   0       100
Motive System: Ground Movement (3 MP)                 0        60
Armor Type:    4 Points Standard                      0       200

Manipulators:
  Left Arm:    Battle Claw                            0        15
  Right Arm:   Battle Claw                            0        15

Weapons and Equipment                Loc     Shots  Slots    Mass
------------------------------------------------------------------
Light Recoilless Rifle               Body      20     2       175
  (with High-Explosive Ammo)
Machine Gun                          RA       150     2       110
Remote Sensor Dispenser              Body             1        40
Mission Equipment (35kg Capy)        Body             1         0
------------------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                                               6       715
Slots & Mass Left:                                    2        35

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:     326,900 C-Bills, Including Trooper
                Training Costs of 150,000 C-bills
Battle Value:   41 (164 for 4)  Weapon Value: 13 (Ratio=.32)
Cost per BV:    4,314.63 (w/o Trooper Training costs)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 2   MRDmg = 0   LRDmg = 0
Mechanized:     Can travel on OmniMechs and OmniVehicles
Attacks:        Can perform Swarm and Leg attacks
BattleForce2:   Class: IB   MP: 3   Armor/Structure: 2 / 0
                Damage PB/M/L: 1/1/-   Overheat: 0
                Point Value: 2    Specials: mec, car4

CBT:RPG Data:   Armor Value (M/B/E/X): 6/6/6/5    Coverage: Full
                IR: 0,  ECM: 0,  Camo: 0
                Melee AP: 1,  Target Size Modifier: 0
                Movement Modifiers:
                  Walking: +3,  Running: +6,  Sprinting: +9
                Attribute Modifiers:  STR: +2,  DEX: -2,  RFL: -2
                Equipment Rating:  E/E/E

                Created by HeavyMetal Battle Armor

        Classic BattleTech Battle Armor Technical Readout
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Type/Model:    Scout B
Tech/Era:      Inner Sphere / 3050 / CBT Rules
Chassis Type:  Humanoid
Weight Class:  Light Battle Armor (401 - 750 kg)
Rules:         Level 2, Custom design

Ground Speed:  32.4 km/h
Armor Type:    Standard

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Type/Model:    Scout B
Equipment:                                          Slots    Mass
Chassis Type:  Light Class Humanoid                   0       100
Motive System: Ground Movement (3 MP)                 0        60
Armor Type:    4 Points Standard                      0       200

Manipulators:
  Left Arm:    Battle Claw                            0        15
  Right Arm:   Battle Claw                            0        15

Weapons and Equipment                Loc     Shots  Slots    Mass
------------------------------------------------------------------
SRM 2                                Body       4     3       200
Grenade Launcher                     RA        40     2       115
  (with High-Explosive Ammo)
------------------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                                               5       705
Slots & Mass Left:                                    3        45

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:     325,960 C-Bills, Including Trooper
                Training Costs of 150,000 C-bills
Battle Value:   28 (112 for 4)  Weapon Value: 14 (Ratio=.50)
Cost per BV:    6,284.29 (w/o Trooper Training costs)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 2   MRDmg = 0   LRDmg = 0
Mechanized:     Can travel on OmniMechs and OmniVehicles
Attacks:        Can not perform Swarm or Leg attacks
BattleForce2:   Class: IB   MP: 3   Armor/Structure: 2 / 0
                Damage PB/M/L: 1/1/-   Overheat: 0
                Point Value: 1    Specials: mec, car4

CBT:RPG Data:   Armor Value (M/B/E/X): 6/6/6/5    Coverage: Full
                IR: 0,  ECM: 0,  Camo: 0
                Melee AP: 1,  Target Size Modifier: 0
                Movement Modifiers:
                  Walking: +3,  Running: +6,  Sprinting: +9
                Attribute Modifiers:  STR: +2,  DEX: -2,  RFL: -1
                Equipment Rating:  E/E/E

                Created by HeavyMetal Battle Armor

        Classic BattleTech Battle Armor Technical Readout
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Type/Model:    Scout C
Tech/Era:      Inner Sphere / 3050 / CBT Rules
Chassis Type:  Humanoid
Weight Class:  Light Battle Armor (401 - 750 kg)
Rules:         Level 2, Custom design

Ground Speed:  32.4 km/h
Armor Type:    Standard

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Type/Model:    Scout C
Equipment:                                          Slots    Mass
Chassis Type:  Light Class Humanoid                   0       100
Motive System: Ground Movement (3 MP)                 0        60
Armor Type:    4 Points Standard                      0       200

Manipulators:
  Left Arm:    Battle Claw                            0        15
  Right Arm:   Battle Claw                            0        15

Weapons and Equipment                Loc     Shots  Slots    Mass
------------------------------------------------------------------
Small Laser                          RA        30     1       200
SRM 1 (OS)                           LA               2        50
Remote Sensor Dispenser              Body             1        40
Improved Sensors                     Body             1        65
------------------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                                               5       745
Slots & Mass Left:                                    3         5

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:     366,250 C-Bills, Including Trooper
                Training Costs of 150,000 C-bills
Battle Value:   30 (120 for 4)  Weapon Value: 10 (Ratio=.33)
Cost per BV:    7,208.33 (w/o Trooper Training costs)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 2   MRDmg = 0   LRDmg = 0
Mechanized:     Can travel on OmniMechs and OmniVehicles
Attacks:        Can perform Swarm and Leg attacks
BattleForce2:   Class: IB   MP: 3   Armor/Structure: 2 / 0
                Damage PB/M/L: 1/-/-   Overheat: 0
                Point Value: 1    Specials: mec, srs, car4

CBT:RPG Data:   Armor Value (M/B/E/X): 6/6/6/5    Coverage: Full
                IR: 0,  ECM: 0,  Camo: 0
                Melee AP: 1,  Target Size Modifier: 0
                Movement Modifiers:
                  Walking: +2,  Running: +4,  Sprinting: +6
                Attribute Modifiers:  STR: +2,  DEX: -2,  RFL: -2
                Equipment Rating:  E/E/E

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I don't know how different your timeline is, so I won't say anything about that. I could see these being used by third rate powers in the later decades. Everything from a home grown suit built in secret by the Regulans to a police/militia armor being locally produced in the FedSuns Outback, or even a line suit in the various Periphery realms.

Nice concept.

Thanks, time line is not really in it to be honest,

Good idea about suits being built in secret etc,

Dave.

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BEWARE!!!!!

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