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 Post subject: Burnside Bridge
PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 11:46 pm 
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Location: That flattop, up the well, overhead …
You know: Antietam.

Had an urge to play there, so I fired up HMM and took two or three stabs at it. :-]

Once I got around to rotating it 20 degrees, so the river more or less matched up with the hexrows, and jumping through some amazing hoops to get a clue on scale, I wound up with this.
Attachment:
Burnside Bridge IIc.jpg

The south edges aren't really to scale (I was getting loopy), and the second road down running NE on the NE map is at the completely wrong angle, I blew off all the fences, and I spent most of my time deciding which way to round a hex (20' is 6m for all practical purposes), but I know have something to play on . . .

I can put up the .HMX files, if'n y'all want . . .

In fact:


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 Post subject: Re: Burnside Bridge
PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 12:10 am 
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Interesting, so we will see mechs marching to a bridge to cross a creek that is fordable...should prove interesting to play on.

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 Post subject: Re: Burnside Bridge
PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 12:23 am 
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Location: That flattop, up the well, overhead …
Even if you don't have tanks or infantry with you right now in need of the bridge, sooner or later, your supple trucks will . . .

The more things change . . . ;-)

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 Post subject: Re: Burnside Bridge
PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 3:16 am 
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Goose wrote:
You know: Antietam.

Had an urge to play there, so I fired up HMM and took two or three stabs at it. :-]

Once I got around to rotating it 20 degrees, so the river more or less matched up with the hexrows, and jumping through some amazing hoops to get a clue on scale, I wound up with this.
Attachment:
Burnside Bridge IIc.jpg

The south edges aren't really to scale (I was getting loopy), and the second road down running NE on the NE map is at the completely wrong angle, I blew off all the fences, and I spent most of my time deciding which way to round a hex (20' is 6m for all practical purposes), but I know have something to play on . . .

I can put up the .HMX files, if'n y'all want . . .

In fact:



Nice map but what is the add-on graphic. Looks like a bend in the road. Mine posting the add-on or letting us know where to get it?


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 Post subject: Re: Burnside Bridge
PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 3:57 am 
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Location: That flattop, up the well, overhead …
What's the error message?

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 Post subject: Re: Burnside Bridge
PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 4:00 am 
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Thanks for those files, I will have a look-see later on today.

Dave.

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 Post subject: Re: Burnside Bridge
PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 2:26 pm 
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Since it was Goose that asked for a "HMMap" forum to be created, it's only fair his thread be the first moved to it. :toast:

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 Post subject: Re: Burnside Bridge
PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 10:31 pm 
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I thought I would chime in and say that I threw down with Goose and several others on the map yesterday. Good fight (for us anyhow...), but I wanted to say hats off to Goose for creating the map and Rick for creating the program! :toast:

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 Post subject: Re: Burnside Bridge
PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 1:45 am 
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Location: That flattop, up the well, overhead …
Hawkins wrote:
Nice map but what is the add-on graphic. Looks like a bend in the road. Mine posting the add-on or letting us know where to get it?

So anyway: What you want to do is grab - er: copy it - the "Road (1-3).gif" from the "Map\Palettes\Basic\Paths" subdirectory, then place it in "Map\Add-Ons" . . .

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 Post subject: Re: Burnside Bridge
PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 1:45 am 
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Location: That flattop, up the well, overhead …
So anyways: I still feel the need to revise it . . . :-]

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 Post subject: Re: Burnside Bridge
PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 2:21 pm 
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Goose wrote:
Even if you don't have tanks or infantry with you right now in need of the bridge, sooner or later, your supple trucks will . . .

Just make sure trucks are hover, VTOL or WiGE motive types ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Burnside Bridge
PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 2:29 pm 
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Location: That flattop, up the well, overhead …
Image Look at the map again . . .

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 Post subject: Re: Burnside Bridge
PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 4:17 pm 
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Goose wrote:
Image Look at the map again . . .

Done... and...?
It looks like hovertrucks can cross the river even without the bridge. Hovertrucks hmm... Maybe tomorrow ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Burnside Bridge
PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 12:03 pm 
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Goose wrote:
Even if you don't have tanks or infantry with you right now in need of the bridge, sooner or later, your supple trucks will . . .

The more things change . . . ;-)


supple trucks... would those look like this?

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 Post subject: Re: Burnside Bridge
PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 2:22 pm 
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Location: That flattop, up the well, overhead …
:stupid:

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 Post subject: Re: Burnside Bridge
PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 4:50 pm 
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Matti wrote:
Hovertrucks hmm... Maybe tomorrow ;)

Said and done. You can look it up at Vehicle Submissions forum.

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 Post subject: Re: Burnside Bridge
PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 8:55 pm 
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chainsawassassin wrote:
Goose wrote:
Even if you don't have tanks or infantry with you right now in need of the bridge, sooner or later, your supple trucks will . . .

The more things change . . . ;-)


supple trucks... would those look like this?

Image


Man I wish they did...and people wonder why soldiers call their vehicles etc...her or she...

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 Post subject: Re: Burnside Bridge
PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 8:56 pm 
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Goose wrote:
Image Look at the map again . . .


Now now Goose...

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 Post subject: Re: Burnside Bridge
PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 4:11 am 
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Goose, Sorry I'm late getting back to post this, I've looked at the Map(s) Very nice work :toast: ,

I keep getting a 'error message saying a custom graphic has been removed- any Chance of you Posting said graphic Please ?, I seem to be getting this message on the NE & NW parts of the map.

Many Thanks.

Dave.

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 Post subject: Re: Burnside Bridge
PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 4:21 am 
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Goose wrote:
Davion_Boy wrote:
I keep getting a 'error message saying a custom graphic has been removed- any Chance of you Posting said graphic Please ?, I seem to be getting this message on the NE & NW parts of the map.

So anyway: What you want to do is grab - er: copy it - the "Road (1-3).gif" from the "Map\Palettes\Basic\Paths" subdirectory, then place it in "Map\Add-Ons" . . .

:wave:

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 Post subject: Re: Burnside Bridge
PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 4:22 am 
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Location: That flattop, up the well, overhead …
Er: And I guess that's why I should revise it . . . :thinker:

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 Post subject: Re: Burnside Bridge
PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 4:27 am 
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Cheers mate, I'll grab it .... err copy it as you suggest :wink: :D

I look forward to a revised copy.

Dave.

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 Post subject: Re: Burnside Bridge
PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 4:54 am 
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Forgot, sorry.

Big.

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 Post subject: Re: Burnside Bridge
PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 5:06 am 
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Goose,

Cheers for that, though I will have to try again later as all I'm getting now is a Red X on white square no picture .

Dave.

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 Post subject: Re: Burnside Bridge
PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 5:46 am 
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O_o I just tried it, and it works; Can't say as I know what's wrong, or even why it'd "red X"/ "broken image" instead of some other error. :dunno:

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 Post subject: Re: Burnside Bridge
PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 6:57 am 
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Goose wrote:
O_o I just tried it, and it works; Can't say as I know what's wrong, or even why it'd "red X"/ "broken image" instead of some other error. :dunno:


Thanks, When I click on the link & it opens as another window I get the red x on white square, But when I right click & save as - I get the jpeg image saved.

My system is working it's strange & wonderous way yet again :crazy: :D .

Very nice map image btw, I take it it's a real place in the USA ?. as a brit I have no idea ?.

Dave.

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 Post subject: Re: Burnside Bridge
PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 7:20 am 
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Yes, Sir: That is indeed the Burnside Bridge, site of the third movement of the Battle of Antietam, of the US's ##$@#$ Civil War. :frown:

The data can be had (more or less) here, in the gift shop, IIRC. The apps on the CD-ROM are only 16-bit, so you might have issues with modern Windows boxes, but the print maps still work. ;-)

Links that let the field speak for itself:
  • http://aotw.org/
  • http://www.nps.gov/anti/index.htm
You can also ask Google Earth about it, but I'm told goobs more trees have sprung up between then and now . . .

Hoops you probaly have to jump through to get to the data on said CD-ROM:
  • http://erdas.com/
  • http://lizardtech.com/
30-day trials are cool, but the ERDAS app is over 800 meg to d/l, and, while does one or two neat things well (get a buildings height from it's shadow?), most of it is inscrutable, with pants for a help-functions. Makes you appreciate Adobe products, I tell you . . . :-]

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 Post subject: Re: Burnside Bridge
PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 7:31 am 
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Very interesting Many Thanks for the link.

:wave:

Dave. :lam: :tank:

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