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 Post subject: half a 'Hammer
PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 11:03 pm 
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well not quite with the first one as I wanted to avoid the XL engine
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BattleMech Technical Readout

Type/Model: Warhammer .5
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3055
Config: Biped BattleMech
Rules: Level 2, Standard design

Mass: 40 tons
Chassis: Endo Steel
Power Plant: 200 Light Fusion
Walking Speed: 54.0 km/h
Maximum Speed: 86.4 km/h
Jump Jets: None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor Type: Standard
Armament:
2 Snub-Nose PPCs
2 Medium Lasers
1 SRM 2
Manufacturer: Mad Engineers Incorporated
Location: (Unknown)
Communications System: (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System: (Unknown)

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Type/Model: Warhammer .5
Mass: 40 tons

Equipment: Crits Mass
Int. Struct.: 67 pts Endo Steel 14 2.00
(Endo Steel Loc: )
Engine: 200 Light Fusion 10 6.50
Walking MP: 5
Running MP: 8
Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks: 14 Double Heat Sink 18 4.00
(Heat Sink Loc: 3 LT, 3 RT)
Extra Light (XL) Gyro: 6 1.00
Small Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors: 4 2.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA+H R: Sh+UA+LA+H 16 .00
Armor Factor: 136 pts Standard 0 8.50

Internal Armor
Structure Value
Head: 3 9
Center Torso: 12 17
Center Torso (Rear): 6
L/R Side Torso: 10 15/15
L/R Side Torso (Rear): 5/5
L/R Arm: 6 12/12
L/R Leg: 10 20/20

Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass
--------------------------------------------------------
1 Snub-Nose PPC RA 10 2 6.00
1 Snub-Nose PPC LA 10 2 6.00
1 Medium Laser RT 3 1 1.00
1 Medium Laser LT 3 1 1.00
1 SRM 2 HD 2 50 2 2.00
(Ammo Locations: 1 HD)
--------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS: 28 76 40.00
Crits & Tons Left: 2 .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 5,223,960 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1,152
Cost per BV: 4,534.69
Weapon Value: 913 / 913 (Ratio = .79 / .79)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 28; MRDmg = 16; LRDmg = 1
BattleForce: MP: 5, Armor/Structure: 3/3
Damage PB/M/L: 4/3/-, Overheat: 0
Class: MM; Point Value: 12
but this one is Half and does have the XL
Quote:
BattleMech Technical Readout

Type/Model: Warhammer .5 A
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3055
Config: Biped BattleMech
Rules: Level 2, Standard design

Mass: 35 tons
Chassis: Endo Steel
Power Plant: 175 Omni XL Fusion
Walking Speed: 54.0 km/h
Maximum Speed: 86.4 km/h
Jump Jets: None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor Type: Standard
Armament:
2 Snub-Nose PPCs
2 Medium Lasers
1 SRM 2
Manufacturer: Mad Engineers Incorporated
Location: (Unknown)
Communications System: (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System: (Unknown)

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Type/Model: Warhammer .5 A
Mass: 35 tons

Equipment: Crits Mass
Int. Struct.: 58 pts Endo Steel 14 2.00
(Endo Steel Loc: 1 HD, 3 LA, 3 RA, 1 LT, 2 RT, 2 LL, 2 RL)
Engine: 175 XL Fusion 12 3.50
Walking MP: 5
Running MP: 8
Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks: 13 Double Heat Sink 18 3.00
(Heat Sink Loc: 1 LA, 1 RA, 2 LT, 2 RT)
Extra Light (XL) Gyro: 6 1.00
Small Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors: 4 2.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA+H R: Sh+UA+LA+H 16 .00
Armor Factor: 119 pts Standard 0 7.50

Internal Armor
Structure Value
Head: 3 9
Center Torso: 11 16
Center Torso (Rear): 6
L/R Side Torso: 8 12/12
L/R Side Torso (Rear): 4/4
L/R Arm: 6 12/12
L/R Leg: 8 16/16

Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass
--------------------------------------------------------
1 Snub-Nose PPC RA 10 2 6.00
1 Snub-Nose PPC LA 10 2 6.00
1 Medium Laser RT 3 1 1.00
1 Medium Laser LT 3 1 1.00
1 SRM 2 HD 2 50 2 2.00
(Ammo Locations: 1 LT)
--------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS: 28 78 35.00
Crits & Tons Left: 0 .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 5,015,160 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1,050
Cost per BV: 4,776.34
Weapon Value: 772 / 772 (Ratio = .74 / .74)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 26; MRDmg = 16; LRDmg = 1
BattleForce: MP: 5, Armor/Structure: 3/1
Damage PB/M/L: 4/3/-, Overheat: 0
Class: ML; Point Value: 11


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 Post subject: Re: half a 'Hammer
PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:54 pm 
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So what is your thought process on these? Trying to build a smaller mech that looks like a Warhammer?

For their size they are fragile, slow, and don't have great range while not being all that cheap based on their engine.

I threw together a couple of medium weight hammer clones below. Similar price ranges, a bit more short range firepower, and a lot more durable. My versions are slower, but the TSM makes up for that. My Snubbie version is very, very similar to yours, but trades the SRMs for two MLs and various smalls for heat balance. The ERLL version is more different from the main weapon choice, but you get the idea.
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               BattleMech Technical Readout

Type/Model:    Babyhammer  ERLL
Tech:          Inner Sphere / 3025
Config:        Biped BattleMech
Rules:         Level 3, Standard design

Mass:          50 tons
Chassis:       StarCorp 100 Standard
Power Plant:   200 VOX Fusion
Walking Speed: 43.2 km/h
Maximum Speed: 64.8 [86.4] km/h
Jump Jets:     None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor Type:    Leviathon Plus Standard
Armament:      
  2 ER Large Lasers
  4 Medium Lasers
  1 Small Laser
  1 ER Small Laser
Manufacturer:  StarCorps Industries
  Location:    (Unknown)
Communications System:  O/P 3000 COMSET
Targeting & Tracking System:  O/P 1500 ARB

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

--------------------------------------------------------
Type/Model:    Babyhammer  TSM
Mass:          50 tons

Equipment:                                 Crits    Mass
Int. Struct.:  83 pts Standard               0      5.00
Engine:        200 Fusion                    6      8.50
   Walking MP:   4 [5]
   Running MP:   6 [8]
   Jumping MP:   0
Heat Sinks:     16 Double [32]              24      6.00
 (Heat Sink Loc: 2 LA, 2 RA, 2 LT, 2 RT)
Gyro:                                        4      2.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors:                5      3.00
Triple Strength Myomer:                      6       .00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA    R: Sh+UA+LA       14       .00
Armor Factor:  168 pts Standard              0     10.50

                          Internal    Armor
                          Structure   Value
   Head:                      3          9      
   Center Torso:             16         23      
   Center Torso (Rear):                  8      
   L/R Side Torso:           12      18/18      
   L/R Side Torso (Rear):              6/6      
   L/R Arm:                   8      16/16      
   L/R Leg:                  12      24/24      

Weapons and Equipment    Loc  Heat  Ammo   Crits    Mass
--------------------------------------------------------
1 ER Large Laser         RA     12           2      5.00
1 ER Large Laser         LA     12           2      5.00
2 Medium Lasers          RT      6           2      2.00
2 Medium Lasers          LT      6           2      2.00
1 Small Laser            CT      1           1       .50
1 ER Small Laser         CT      2           1       .50
--------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                         39          69     50.00
Crits & Tons Left:                           9       .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        4,905,250 C-Bills
Battle Value 2:    1,560 (old BV = 1,197)
Cost per BV2:      3,144.39
Weapon Value:      1,949 / 1,949 (Ratio = 1.25 / 1.25)
Damage Factors:    SRDmg = 28;  MRDmg = 13;  LRDmg = 5
BattleForce2:      MP: 4,  Armor/Structure: 4/4
                   Damage PB/M/L: 4/3/1,  Overheat: 1
                   Class: MM;  Point Value: 16

Code:
               BattleMech Technical Readout
                     Custom* Weapons

Type/Model:    Babyhammer  Snubbie
Tech:          Inner Sphere / 3025
Config:        Biped BattleMech
Rules:         Level 3, Standard design

Mass:          50 tons
Chassis:       StarCorp 100 Standard
Power Plant:   200 VOX Fusion
Walking Speed: 43.2 km/h
Maximum Speed: 64.8 [86.4] km/h
Jump Jets:     None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor Type:    Leviathon Plus Standard
Armament:      
  2 Snub nose PPCs*
  4 Medium Lasers
  1 Small Laser
  1 ER Small Laser
Manufacturer:  StarCorps Industries
  Location:    (Unknown)
Communications System:  O/P 3000 COMSET
Targeting & Tracking System:  O/P 1500 ARB

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

--------------------------------------------------------
Type/Model:    Babyhammer  Snubbie
Mass:          50 tons

Equipment:                                 Crits    Mass
Int. Struct.:  83 pts Standard               0      5.00
Engine:        200 Fusion                    6      8.50
   Walking MP:   4 [5]
   Running MP:   6 [8]
   Jumping MP:   0
Heat Sinks:     14 Double [28]              18      4.00
 (Heat Sink Loc: 2 RA, 2 LT, 2 RT)
Gyro:                                        4      2.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors:                5      3.00
Triple Strength Myomer:                      6       .00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA    R: Sh+UA+LA       14       .00
Armor Factor:  168 pts Standard              0     10.50

                          Internal    Armor
                          Structure   Value
   Head:                      3          9      
   Center Torso:             16         23      
   Center Torso (Rear):                  8      
   L/R Side Torso:           12      18/18      
   L/R Side Torso (Rear):              6/6      
   L/R Arm:                   8      16/16      
   L/R Leg:                  12      24/24      

Weapons and Equipment    Loc  Heat  Ammo   Crits    Mass
--------------------------------------------------------
1 Snub nose PPC*         RA     10           2      6.00
1 Snub nose PPC*         LA     10           2      6.00
2 Medium Lasers          RT      6           2      2.00
2 Medium Lasers          LT      6           2      2.00
1 Small Laser            CT      1           1       .50
1 ER Small Laser         CT      2           1       .50
--------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                         35          63     50.00
Crits & Tons Left:                          15       .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        5,187,250 C-Bills
Battle Value 2:    1,565 (old BV = 1,193)
Cost per BV2:      3,314.54
Weapon Value:      2,019 / 2,019 (Ratio = 1.29 / 1.29)
Damage Factors:    SRDmg = 31;  MRDmg = 16;  LRDmg = 1
BattleForce2:      MP: 4,  Armor/Structure: 4/4
                   Damage PB/M/L: 5/3/-,  Overheat: 1
                   Class: MM;  Point Value: 16



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 Post subject: Re: half a 'Hammer
PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 5:27 pm 
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Good designs, lordwolf, they capture the feel of the Warhammer. I think the first one has almost as much armor, too. :)

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 Post subject: Re: half a 'Hammer
PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 3:43 pm 
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When I saw "half" I thought a literal half, which would be far more efficient.

35 tons standard chassis, 5/8/0 standard engine, 10 single sinks
PPC (RA), Medium Laser (LT), SRM-4 (LT) @1 (LA), 2xMG (CT) @0.5 (LA)

Ammo in the arm is poor man's 3025 CASE. You at least have a CHANCE.

Though my favorite advanced tech Whammy is pretty much the original dropping ten tons with endo whilst not really changing the weapon load other than tossing a flamer in the head, switching to light MG's, and using a trio of STK-2's instead of a normal -6 since canon-wise the IS had only -2's first so it should be more common/plentiful. I generally do NOT find the range increase of the ERPPC worth the heat, nor do I find the point blank (by my view) range of the snubby something you'd heat bracket against.

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